Comments on: Papers: M’siska hopes U/23 role is a stepping stone

By: chamz

chamz — Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:30:40 +0000

The fact is Kaumba was coach because of Mulonga, North West connection, how do you fail to qualify for two tournaments and remail as coach? I agree with Justice, he is not a good coach at all. In fact he has been coaching U23 for a long time. Is Msiska over 50, like someone is saying? No ways, he must be in his 40′s I you saying, he went to Europe at 30?

By: Justice Kafusha

Justice Kafusha — Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:54:17 +0000

@ROK the yardstick in this case is there. Ba late Zoom managed to qualify us to the Olympics and that is what counts. Kaumba has failed even at local clubs, I wonder if he is still coaching. He was a good player but coaching is not his trade. I hope he has found something else to do

By: ROK

ROK — Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:14:20 +0000

Justice and logic whilst calling Kaumba a failure, we should really bear in mind that the majority of our local coaches have never been accorded a chance to do formal training apart from 1 or 2 weeks workshops here and there. Most of them are using their experience gained from their playing days. As logic has said we just have to accept to differ because i would not want to ignore even the academies through which a player passed through and no wonder FIFA recognises this through what is called Solidarity Mechanism and training meaning when a player is 18 or above and signs a professional contract, all the teams through which that player went are entitled to a per centage payment. To me, this is a recognition of various contributors. Similarly, for a player to be in the senior national team, it means someone contributed somehow because you don't just jump from nowhere and start playing in the national team. Grooming a player to national status is a long process and Justice and Logic should guard against the danger of just looking at the final results or contributors overlooking those who contributed in their refinement. I rest my case on this. Meanwhile my heartfelt condolences to Madiba who lost a great grand child after last night's kick off concert.

By: Muta

Muta — Fri, 11 Jun 2010 02:08:39 +0000

I really don’t think Msiska is ready for any national team assignment. The man is over 50 years old and has never coached a senior team, he has only been coaching tuma junior teams of which I understand he was just an assistant. This to me just shows the guy has no ambition or passion for wining or coaching at the highest level. At 50 years old and spending 20 years in Europe he should have at least coached a third division or reserve team thats if he really loved coaching.
I want to know what coaching qualifications this Msiska has, if he does not have at least UEFA B qualification then he should never be let anywhere near any national team. The guy has no proper coaching experience or qualification and yet he has been given the second important coaching job in the country. WTF

By: kk11

kk11 — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:03:27 +0000

Logic has just defied LOGIC! LMFAO!!!

By: Trully zambian

Trully zambian — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:55:39 +0000

I just feel that our local coaches are crucified for some wrong reasons,i think we have abundant talent in zambia,that is a fact,but how many players are mentally ready to take big challenges when it matters most?i strongly believe that we have a lot of talent but at the moment i dont think we can compare our mental strength with other nations

By: Positive thinking ..aka Awe

Positive thinking ..aka Awe — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:50:12 +0000

Well regardless of what we think, we cannot take way Kaumba’s contributions to Zambian football. The man has done his part, and I think he should be a consideration for at least the assistant coaches role at the senior level. His experience and his eye for talent, could definately be of great benefit to Zambia. On another note; I wish M’siska the best of luck with the U-23, and I think FAZ are doing well to put M’siska to the test… and if he succeeds then the world should watch out. I for one will be rooting for him, though it would be nice to know what his CV looks like.

By: logic

logic — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:38:31 +0000

Jojo, obviously you and me are not on the same side of the fence on this Kaumba issue so I suggest we agree to disagree. You think he did good, I say he did nothing worth writing home about. I give credit where it’s due, unfortunately in my books Kaumba does not measure up to the mark of being considered a good coach, just like the chap HR you mentioned but thats a story for another day. Enjoy the WC tomorrow my friend

By: Mabbwana

Mabbwana — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:38:06 +0000

@Logic, I agree with you on most of what you have said about Kaumba.

Jojo, lets not forget that Kaumba had two attempts at the All Africa Games and twice he failed with the U23, the latest being the Algeria games. Kaumba had a talented team of players who played so many games together and at least cold even have brought us the All Africa games trophy.
I followed that team closely and those of you who did would agree that there was more than enough talent in the team. So its not based on one game where he took a knife to the battle field instead of a gun like my colleague has put it but it was his consistent failure to bring home anything.
He did his part, but it wasn’t good enough.

By: Jojo

Jojo — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:18:12 +0000

Logic listen,yes we failed to qualify for beijing,nobody is disputing that,but being a coach of a junior national team is not only about qualifying for tournaments,its also about providing a wider base from which national team players can be picked and peter did that job with distinction..am surprised that you are not even talking about our performances at the all africa games where we got some very good results..you should learn to appreciate,nowonder HR left us..

On another point,it’s not true that kaumba got polished products from the u20,i can only remember a few who had already made a name at u20 level,like chansa,kombe,songwe,mayuka,kalaba and william..the majority of players he used to pick were relatively uknown which shows that he also had an eye for spotting talent..
And i hope you are not trying to compare chicken and kaumba,