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Now Renard eyes Angola job

March 9, 2010

Renard-phone

Hello Angola? You have abundant talent and good stadia. Am interested in your job!

 

Zambia manager Herve Renard has hinted he will rush for the Angola job if the Palancas Negras authorities demand for his services according to today’s edition of the Times of Zambia citing Angola press reports. 

The Angola job fell vacant after the resignation of Portuguese coach Manuel Jose after the hosts were eliminated in the quarter finals of the AFCON. 

Renard is reported to have said at the weekend that he would like to drill Angola because they have abundant talent. 

He is also a keen admirer of Angolan stadia which he said was key to the rise of the game  in Zambia’s western neighbours. 

After guiding Zambia to a quarter-final berth in Angola, Renard has openly expressed his desire to leave the Zambia job. 

He has been linked with several jobs including the coveted Nigerian hot seat and Gabon which have eluded him. 

His link with Angola will come as a shock as was with Senegal and Tanzania given that Renard had earlier indicated that it would be tough for him to work in Angola or Mozambique as he told the world he was ready for the move to big nations in Angola: 

”Now I can speak English and I’m French, so it’s only the Portuguese-speaking countrues like Angola and Mozambique that it would be difficult for me to work with beacuse the language is very important.” 

But even then the 41 year old had dropped a hint he may still be interested in coaching there by saying: 

”But if they qualify to the World Cup I would immediately sign for them .” 

While the outspoken Frenchman is looking for a job relentlessly, the Football Association of Zambia (FAZ) has said the former Ghana Physical Trainer is their plan A, B and C. 

Meanwhile, FAZ has banned Simataa Simataa from football activities indefinitely for alleged gross misconduct. 

The Amakumbi boss who is also Zambia Football Coaches Association (ZAFCA) General Secretary last week filed a petition to remove FAZ Supremo Kalusha Bwalya on 12 grounds. 

Simataa is now set to miss the crucial FAZ Indaba on March 27 but has indicated he will appeal the decision.


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  1. gb on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 9:05 AM 

    let him go. The more desperate he is, the more jobs will elude him and he wiil start crying for the zambian job. At its Indaba on 27 th March the FAz should discuss his future seriously and consider not renewing his contract. There are lots of options that we can fall on.

  2. Asilikale on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 9:06 AM 

    Zambians dont need Renard its only Faz who need him,why not let a better coach come in and let Renard go and languish as a PE coach in land of imagnation,if hes gud as he thnk why is t that he cant even take the job of small teams,shame on Renard,coz i realy wantd to face Ghana at afcon bt he blew our only chance.

  3. jc on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 9:12 AM 

    Why is FAZ allowwing Renard, at every moment, to be talking of eyeing another job. Why the dont theyr sit down and agree on the wayforward unlike speculation all the time

  4. Asilikale on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 9:12 AM 

    Faz has errored on Simata simata,bt all the same i support the petition to remove kalusha bwalya,4gud sake of zambian football.

  5. Big Steve from SA on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 9:13 AM 

    Not renewing this chaps contract should not even be a consideration it should be an outright decision and a letter handed to him on the 27th itself. I dont understand why we are busy running circles around Renard. After he made it so obvious he was looking elswere we should have also already started looking for another coach instead of siting around waiting for him to call the shots. I will never understand FAZ, they beat up people and now have moved on to banning people with different views and even with this dictatorship management style they can still be wrapped around HR little finger. He is the one saying jump and they are asking how high.

  6. Zima Ndola on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 9:23 AM 

    Ba Rena nabo?

  7. Ndine on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 9:24 AM 

    The behaviour of Renard is disappointing. As for Simataa. The whole issue looks complex. Petitioning 1 or 2 Officials in FAZ would look normal BUT when the petitions cover almost everyone in FAZ one starts to smell some underhand methods at play. All the good intentions are eventually lost in the process.

  8. Justice Kafusha on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 9:33 AM 

    Total confusion all the time, we might as well get used to it. It seems things will never change, players issues, ba FAZ and Councilors, HR, FIFA name them the list will go on and on
    This may as well be the end of the progress of Zambian football, because as issues stand we are going to start from the scratch again

    YABA

  9. Ba Muzo on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 9:33 AM 

    lLet us wait and see. Loyalty is a key word in football. Dictatorship knows no borders in administration.
    While FAZ are quick to ban Simataa for gross misconduct, they are as slow as a snail on the London misconduct directives from NSCZ.
    But is it not said he who pays the piper calls the tunes? This Simataa ban is perfect timing in the wake of his petition against FAZ big bwana Kalusha Bwalya.

  10. LOKOMBWE on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 9:34 AM 

    Renard nimbwa yamuntu eletontokanya nga kaiche,he thinks he is now a GOOD coach,he is talking bunch of KAK.MULEKENI ALEYA PUBAFU

  11. Amanzi on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 9:36 AM 

    I wonder what Mr H Renard has achieved for him to be throwing applications all over. KALUSHA BWALYA PLEASE TELL HR THAT ZAMBIA WILL NOT RENEW YOUR CONTRACT AND START LOOKING FOR A COACH WHO DREAMS BIG, NOT A QUARTER FINAL PLACE AT AFCON!!!!!!!!!!!!

  12. js on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 9:37 AM 

    Football is serious business. therefore, the administration of Football requires a lot of skills. the fact that one has played football does not necessarily make one an expert at football.What Zambia seems to be lacking is football administrators, people with an understanding of how to organize the game in its entirety,not just on the pitch but also off the pitch- league structuring,player management, and a host of many other things related to football.
    I think FAZ need a serious overhaul and to make it more professional in its operation.
    There is also need to delink the League from FAZ, so that FAZ concentrates on the nation teams and the league to stand alone as it in many countries.

  13. Mabbwana on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 9:58 AM 

    I am tired of HRs games. I think we are not so desperate as to be begging for someone whose heart is surely not with us.

    We need someone with the zeal and passion to drive us on to higher heights, not someone who keeps looking at the neighbours pot.

    On Simata, this is the culmination of a long war between Kalu and him. We all know that Kalu and Simata dont meet eye to eye, but I can assure you, this battle will go a long way.

    The FAZ statement says that he is not to attend any activity arranged by FAZ, if spotted, the game or activity will have to be delayed until he is cleared off the premises.

    This is sgoing to waste alot of ur time and energies instead of concetrating on soccer development.

  14. Justice Kafusha on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 10:08 AM 

    Any news about Mbola??

  15. Justice Kafusha on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 10:13 AM 

    I think there must be something really good at those FAZ offices, all these petitions, suspensions. Just why all this fighting? Is for the better of Zambian football or people know they can gain a lot? Surely there must something very sweet at Football House

    The scrumble for Football House, bwafya

  16. bob munyati on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 10:33 AM 

    I think we should let me go. We can always get another man or woman for the job.

  17. Uncle Bobs on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 10:36 AM 

    Mabbwana,
    To the contrary Simataa and Kalu have been meeting. For me Simataa being suspended isn’t an issue but whether the issues he has raised are constitutional or not or whether Kalu’s actions have been constitutional or not. One thing i know is that Simataa has nothing to lose whether he’s in football or not as he’s always giving to it through the team that he sponsors from his own pocket. People should ask what will happen to the boys that play for his team. Do others also give more than what they take from football is the question. Simataa has raised pertinent questions that Ba Kalu needs to address as whether he likes it or not he has abrogated the FAZ constitution on countless times.

    Timely advice to those that do wrong are living examples (FTJ, Mahtani etc). One thing i know is that Simataa always has the last laugh (Ask Mahtani, FTJ, Koyi, Chitoba, City of Lusaka etc).

    Customer Service is to the people that you serve (Delegates) and not those that serve you (Mamelodi, FIFA, Blatter) albeit them being major stakeholders in the game. Ba Kalu, alwayd DO EVERYTHING ABOUT SOMETHING than SOMETHING ABOUT EVERYTHING, it is better being 1% GOOD AT 100 THINGS (Delegates, Straight deals etc) than being 100% GOOD AT 1 THING (Playing glory, Player selling in the name of being a Zambian or Soccer being one’s life, Concealed NIKE contract that is not a preserve of many a stakeholder etc). Your clinging to the GS when affiliates say he hasn’t been giving them the best of service is recipe for disaster.

    Kalu-do not say you were noy warned. Remember the Peter Bishonga document just before elections that people were quick to dispel yet what is happening is exactly what Peter Bishonga outlined.

    Ba Justice noblemen before like David Lewanika, Tom Mtine, RB, SS, Ghumbo, Late Mwape etc simply respected the constitution and there was no scramble. People are just fed up with the information asymetry at Football House as everything has been commercialised for the benefit of individuals-player dealings, sourcing vehicles, president renting vehicle from the GS (may be first time ever) etc. Also we need to screen people going into FAZ and not end up having people that were caught selling tickets like Bhamjee, People that were fired for forging their boss’s signatures in their previous employment etc.

  18. Vincent Numbwa on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 10:36 AM 

    We derseve better than HR . We did not even need him in the first place, we performed well despite HR and now he is busy telling us how he would be happy to coach other teams even if like Zambia, the has not qualified for SA 2010.

    HR can be happy anywhere else why should we plead with him when we ca do better. FAZ should Just put an adevert for a coach, we would be surprised the number of high profile coaches that would want to coach Zambia.

  19. Big Steve from SA on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 10:36 AM 

    Justice Kafusha :I think there must be something really good at those FAZ offices, all these petitions, suspensions. Just why all this fighting? Is for the better of Zambian football or people know they can gain a lot? Surely there must something very sweet at Football House
    The scrumble for Football House, bwafya

    I agree, if it was really just for the development of soccer in Zambia i’m sure all this fighting would not be taking place. there must be something too sweet for Kasengele and company to let go. Something sooooo sweet Kalu cant imagine losing out just because of Simaata. Guess thats why the lack of transparency at football house, thats the reason for all the secrecy, it would be too risky just in case the public knows whats really going on. Wish we could have a bite of the FAZ chocolate thats currently being eaten by a few.

  20. Big Steve from SA on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 10:43 AM 

    @Uncle Bobs
    Very nicely put but could you brief us on the Peter Bishonga document you talk about. What was it about basically??

  21. Uncle Bobs on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 10:45 AM 

    Ba Justice,
    Mbola will end up like Dennis Lota (remember Sion deal and after scoring in the UEFA when he had to return to SA). Mbola will end up at Mining Rangers who will in no time send back to our village Mansa playing at Chakopo, Police, Saint Clements grounds. Bashi Mbola and Ba self Christopher Chileshe your timely action away from STUPID vultures only will save the kid. Pyunik proved to SPURS that Mbola is on the FIFA database registered as their player. Only INTEGRITY is the password to being ETHICAL chapwa.

  22. daniel on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 11:10 AM 

    @LOKOMBWE
    I agree with you HR,is not even worth talking about.

  23. Man ceasor on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 11:22 AM 

    zamfoot da anti renard,renard has eveyrite 2look 4a job nwhere esp dat we zambians dont want him.

  24. Alexander Liwana,RSA on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 11:27 AM 

    He should just go this stupid idiot .He has achieved nothing for Zambia.Zambia has always been a shining star in soccer and one day we will have our own coach who will take us to greater heights in soccer like Zoom Ndlovu and Chitalu did.Au Revoir Renard

  25. Never on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 11:32 AM 

    Issues raised by Simataa may be genuine but the way the all issue is being handled.I see it like its all about politics or a question of some sour grapes on the part of Simataa.I think there is a better way of handling FAZ’s maladiminstration.

    And my friendly advise to my man Zamfoot,please just be careful so that people do not use you in all this.Just continue with your noble cause which you have so far executed very well.We are behind you.

  26. chamz on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 11:49 AM 

    All these stories about HR are just speculation. Nigeria, Tanzania, Angola soon Malawi, what next DRC? Leave the guy alone you haters

  27. Anonymous on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 12:03 PM 

    @Justice Kafusha

    He has signed a contract with a Premiership Club – insider info!

  28. poxie on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 12:11 PM 

    simataa just has beef with kalu, and think he is just jealous why does he not stand for FAZ presidency??? rather than critise his friends, he cant even help his own team to graduate to premier division he just talks he is a big failure and not man enough, if kalu resigns today he has alot of jobs at FIFA and it will be a relief from this witchfinding national soccer board as along as we have pull him down people like the simataa we will neva progress in zambia one day kalu will leave then wat it will be worse for the love of zambia lets not stub each other’s backs hard work will earn you wat kalu has achieved to be recognised!!!

  29. Man ceasor on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 12:11 PM 

    @chamz u r rite very soon it wl b zim.comin 2 simataa we kn dis man,he wants 2b faz president.

  30. Amuna Onzuna on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 12:14 PM 

    Renard is the ONLY CHEAP Coach FAZ could find,and he still is.Now,where are we going to get the money to pay a Coach who will demand a salary of $100 000 a month?.People,think before you act,currently its Konkola Copper Mines who are paying $25 000 as a Salary to Renard and his assistant.

  31. BRIAN MULUTULA on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 12:33 PM 

    please let him go we can maintain our team with our local coaches coz he has shown luck
    of interest so far

  32. Jojo on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 12:44 PM 

    Has renard been offered a new contract??
    Has he rejected a contract??
    Have FAZ allowed him to talk to potential employers??
    Has he been fired??
    Are FAZ already in the market looking for a new coach??

    Theses are questions i dont know the answers to and am sure am not the only one,all we’ve been hearing are rumours,lets maybe wait for renard himself or somebody at FAZ to clear the air..personally am tired of all these..nigeria,senegal,benin,angola,tanzania,rwanda etc..its just too much mwe..

  33. Justice Kafusha on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 12:46 PM 

    @Uncle Bobs

    Points noted. My concern is that petitions are flying in from all angles. Why can’t these people petition the whole FAZ that will be easier. After all they work and support each other. I have not seen anyone resign yet from the current FAZ because it appears as though they are satisfied

    I know a lot of bad things have been going on at FAZ for a long time and that I do not support, however I feel the whole FAZ should be removed if that is what is required. It is not good enough to point at certain people while others are left free

  34. Jojo on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 12:46 PM 

    These..

  35. Justice Kafusha on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 12:48 PM 

    Anonymous :@Justice Kafusha
    He has signed a contract with a Premiership Club – insider info!

    Anonymous :@Justice Kafusha
    He has signed a contract with a Premiership Club – insider info!

    Thanks for the information

  36. Justice Kafusha on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 12:50 PM 

    Uncle Bobs :Ba Justice,Mbola will end up like Dennis Lota (remember Sion deal and after scoring in the UEFA when he had to return to SA). Mbola will end up at Mining Rangers who will in no time send back to our village Mansa playing at Chakopo, Police, Saint Clements grounds. Bashi Mbola and Ba self Christopher Chileshe your timely action away from STUPID vultures only will save the kid. Pyunik proved to SPURS that Mbola is on the FIFA database registered as their player. Only INTEGRITY is the password to being ETHICAL chapwa.

    Ati Chakopo, ala naseka sana na pa Kombaniya

  37. Justice Kafusha on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 12:56 PM 

    Amuna Onzuna :Renard is the ONLY CHEAP Coach FAZ could find,and he still is.Now,where are we going to get the money to pay a Coach who will demand a salary of $100 000 a month?.People,think before you act,currently its Konkola Copper Mines who are paying $25 000 as a Salary to Renard and his assistant.

    I thought KCM stopped until some other firm came with an offer to pay for the remaining months of HR’s contract

  38. Justice Kafusha on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 1:05 PM 

    I think regarding the issue of HR, anyone would do that if your employers are not coming with an offer. Saying FAZ would like to extend HR’s contract is not enough. FAZ must come up with a concrete offer and the rest will be up to HR. But when nothing is happening HR has to look at other options as his current contract expires ultimo May 2010.

    And when you add the current state of affairs between clubs and FAZ, which sensible person would love to stay. Things are just not OK in Zambian football as at now and in the end it is us soccer loving fans who will suffer. Bwafya

  39. Big Steve from SA on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 1:15 PM 

    Amuna Onzuna :Renard is the ONLY CHEAP Coach FAZ could find,and he still is.Now,where are we going to get the money to pay a Coach who will demand a salary of $100 000 a month?.People,think before you act,currently its Konkola Copper Mines who are paying $25 000 as a Salary to Renard and his assistant.

    We are not necessarily talking about Gus Hiddink here. You honestly think that there are no coaches out there that can take a $25,000 + Car job. You think the coaching world is short of Herve Renards??? Believe you me there are plenty. Let FAZ advertise the job and you will see how many will come running. The problem at FAZ in all honesty is nichekeleko. They cant even hire a coach in a transparent fashion. I dont like HR and dont think he worth all the credit chamz and them give him, but for continuity sake my heart settled on an extension of his contract but alas the fool is taking advantage of the nonsense happening at FAZ so he has got us wrapped around his little finger and thats what should never happen. An employee cant be calling the shots on the employer.

  40. ROK on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 1:17 PM 

    Uncle Bobs, if you have details pertaining to the new Chipolopolo strips please share it with us. It is better we stop this scandal right away instead of debating over it once the deal has been finalised.@Uncle Bobs

  41. Tombolilo on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 1:21 PM 

    Justice Kafusha :

    Anonymous :@Justice Kafusha
    He has signed a contract with a Premiership Club – insider info!

    Anonymous :@Justice Kafusha
    He has signed a contract with a Premiership Club – insider info!

    Thanks for the information

    which team? plz update..

  42. Justice Kafusha on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 1:22 PM 

    Big Steve from SA :

    Amuna Onzuna :Renard is the ONLY CHEAP Coach FAZ could find,and he still is.Now,where are we going to get the money to pay a Coach who will demand a salary of $100 000 a month?.People,think before you act,currently its Konkola Copper Mines who are paying $25 000 as a Salary to Renard and his assistant.

    We are not necessarily talking about Gus Hiddink here. You honestly think that there are no coaches out there that can take a $25,000 + Car job. You think the coaching world is short of Herve Renards??? Believe you me there are plenty. Let FAZ advertise the job and you will see how many will come running. The problem at FAZ in all honesty is nichekeleko. They cant even hire a coach in a transparent fashion. I dont like HR and dont think he worth all the credit chamz and them give him, but for continuity sake my heart settled on an extension of his contract but alas the fool is taking advantage of the nonsense happening at FAZ so he has got us wrapped around his little finger and thats what should never happen. An employee cant be calling the shots on the employer.

    You know Steve what is strange about the whole issue is that FAZ seem to be silent on this matter. That is why they make people suspect them of ABC, ABC. We are going backwards it seems

  43. Justice Kafusha on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 1:23 PM 

    ROK :Uncle Bobs, if you have details pertaining to the new Chipolopolo strips please share it with us. It is better we stop this scandal right away instead of debating over it once the deal has been finalised.@Uncle Bobs

    I think we all know who is behind this deal

  44. Justice Kafusha on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 1:25 PM 

    If FAZ have no money to pay HR as I beleive, then where will the money to pay the new coach come from?

  45. ROK on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 1:30 PM 

    There is just more than Simataa my brother. You mean all the people who have petitioned FAZ is a result of sour grapes?e you aware that Kasengele failed to inform one Match Commissioner to officialte at a CAF match in Angola less than two week ago and meanwhile he is busy signing letters of suspension for Simataa? How can the whole GS forgot to inform the match commissioner to commission a CAF match? If this is not gross incompetence then let me know the right vocabulary here. Sometimes we comment without doing enough research on the subject matter. If this issue of someone’s wife selling stripes to FAZ, are you surely going to refer to that as sour grapes? I have no problem with the ban on Simataa but i have all the problems with a situation whereby a clique can abrogate the constitution and still get away with it.@Never

  46. ROK on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 1:32 PM 

    Ba Justice, please let us share details pertaining to this because as at now, it is still in rumour for. We want more details so that we STOP this rot.@Justice Kafusha

  47. KACHEPA on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 1:43 PM 

    Mbola has joined power dynamos

  48. Spaks on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 1:48 PM 

    The happenings in zambian football awe mwandi its like we are watching a Mafia movie

  49. Mabbwana on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 1:50 PM 

    Justice Kafusha :
    I think regarding the issue of HR, anyone would do that if your employers are not coming with an offer. Saying FAZ would like to extend HR’s contract is not enough. FAZ must come up with a concrete offer and the rest will be up to HR. But when nothing is happening HR has to look at other options as his current contract expires ultimo May 2010.
    And when you add the current state of affairs between clubs and FAZ, which sensible person would love to stay. Things are just not OK in Zambian football as at now and in the end it is us soccer loving fans who will suffer. Bwafya

    You know JK were I have a problem with HR is here, it might be that he hasn’t been offered the extension yet, but has he offered himself for the Zambian job. A lot of speculation a lot of rumors but he doesn’t say anything himself and these reports keep coming. The only thing we have heard from him is his open desire to leave his current job.
    If he was really interested in sticking around, he could have said something to that effect just to kill the rumors.

  50. Bonaventure on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 1:51 PM 

    If things go this way we will have a new FAZ executive every AGM. This is not healthy at all even though we do not condene mal-administration.

  51. Chali Cool on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 1:56 PM 

    Justice Kafusha :I think regarding the issue of HR, anyone would do that if your employers are not coming with an offer. Saying FAZ would like to extend HR’s contract is not enough. FAZ must come up with a concrete offer and the rest will be up to HR. But when nothing is happening HR has to look at other options as his current contract expires ultimo May 2010.
    And when you add the current state of affairs between clubs and FAZ, which sensible person would love to stay. Things are just not OK in Zambian football as at now and in the end it is us soccer loving fans who will suffer. Bwafya

    Makes a lot of sense. I believe what is causing all this is uncertaint surrounding Renard’s job and the drama currently taking place.

  52. lelo12 on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 1:57 PM 

    Kalu the most appropriate decision the sake the Zambian game, it to resign resign on oral grounds, if you try to intimidate others who have a genuine concern and for how long will that work? The truth will surely come out one day. Your crookedness is numbering your stay in that position.

    You run now but you will sure not hide and you will pay dearly, Faz is better of with you greed, egocentric crook.

  53. ‚Bolla Pansi on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 2:17 PM 

    Okay its HR again.Let those asking him to leave tell us who they think will be our next coach

  54. isaac malukutu on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 2:30 PM 

    We are tired of HR,If he is not interested in coaching Zambia,let the physical trainer go.

  55. Billy on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 2:40 PM 

    Uyu naena aleya fye mwe, atase. Twatendwa. Everytime its Renard for Nigeria job, Renard for Tanzania job, Renard for Gabon job, Renard for Angola, Renard for……. Very soon you will hear Renard for Indian job.

  56. Daaram-Durban on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 3:03 PM 

    WHO HAS BEEN FOLLOWING SIMAATA FOR A LONG TIME??????????
    WHO REMEMBERS WHAT SIMAATA SAID DURING THE FAZ ELECTIONS WHICH USHERED IN GREAT KALU?
    SIMAATA IS ON RECORD OF HAVING SAID THAT I WILL NEVER WORK WITH KALU IN MY WHOLE LIFE…
    ASHFORD SAID THOZ PETITIONS ARE TOO MEAN..ITS VERY TRUE N VERY CORRECT..
    HOW ON EARTH CAN U PETITION TO REMOVE FAZ BECAUSE OF JUST THE LONDON SAGA?2 CARS AND RATIFICATION GS JOB????????

    ARE WE SO BLINDED AS ZAMBIANS THAT WE ARE ALLOWING THE POST AND SIMAATA TO DRIVE OUR JUDGMENTS?
    PEOPLE IN ZAMBIA FIGHT EVERY DAY..INSTEAD OF THINKING OF DEVELOPMENT IN FOOTBALL, PPLE R BUSY CALLIN 4KALU’S BLOOD…
    ITS SICKENING SOMETIMES TO READ ZAMBIAN FOOTBALL NEWS AND HOW WE BLINDLY START CALLING PPLE NAMES..I AGREE THAT KALU HAS HIS OWN WEAKNESSES JUST LIKE ANY OF U..JUST LIKE FRED MEMBE DIVORCIN QKLY MARRYING A MARRIED WOMAN….
    DATS Y THERZ TOO MUCH POVERTY IN ZAMBIA..ITS ALL BECAUSE PPLE SPEND MOST OF THE TIMES ARGUING INSTEAD OF PROVIDN SOLUTIONS…

  57. Big Steve from SA on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 3:22 PM 

    KACHEPA :Mbola has joined power dynamos

    We are keeping it serious here because we are discussing serious matters. Keep the jokes on other sites please.

  58. chamz on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 3:52 PM 

    Billy :Uyu naena aleya fye mwe, atase. Twatendwa. Everytime its Renard for Nigeria job, Renard for Tanzania job, Renard for Gabon job, Renard for Angola, Renard for……. Very soon you will hear Renard for Indian job.

    Thats the problem, why do you believe reports, what if its not true? I thought HR was honest at the Press Conference when he came from Angola. In fact he said the offers were not formal,

  59. Logic on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 4:04 PM 

    If the allegations that Simataa has raised are baseless, why deny him an opportunity to embarass himself with this petition. This situation is getting uglier by the day. And this Kasengele chap, who the hell does he think he is to say he does not respond to trivial issues after RAZ asked to have a desk at Football house? Does he honestly think football can function without referees? We have a rogue coach that is not hiding his intentions to bolt yet not even a statement of reassurance comes out of the FAZ camp. Ashfold Mamelodi, a friend of Kalusha I might add, comes in and talks nonsence about the petitioners who are simply practizing their constitutional rights, I mean the list is endless. The only sad part about this whole episode is that FIFA seems to be sympathetic to the Kalusha click and I fear that this less than objective stand by them will allow this current group of crooks at FAZ to kill our football. Lord help us

  60. Uncle Bobs on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 4:07 PM 

    The fact that Kalu has called on Simataa who responded shows that there no permanent enemies in Sport. It should be beyond personalities lest we lose focus like Kalu has. One would expect that after dribbling delegates at that AGM (like FTJ tried the 3rd term) Kalu himself gave up after too much pressure. If he manages to dribble the many concerns that have been raised that have nothing to do whether SS would work with him or not will haunt him again. The first honourable thing Kalu can do is to face his pak the GS and ask him to step aside. The issue at hand is that FAZ in the same way they,ve quoted the constitution in suspending SS should also face up to the charges levelled against them so that posterity can judge us objectively. Bringing in personal lives is myopic (albeit respecting such opinions)in my opinion. The saying says you can run but you can’t hide-where are Chitoba, Koyi, Mahtani and FTJ today that abrogated set procedures?). For a copy of Peter Bishonga’s report SMS your email addresses on 0977 781007. Abash CORRUPTION nabu MWANSA KABINGA pantu umu akakwa nombaline.

  61. chamz on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 4:23 PM 

    Logic :If the allegations that Simataa has raised are baseless, why deny him an opportunity to embarass himself with this petition. This situation is getting uglier by the day. And this Kasengele chap, who the hell does he think he is to say he does not respond to trivial issues after RAZ asked to have a desk at Football house? Does he honestly think football can function without referees? We have a rogue coach that is not hiding his intentions to bolt yet not even a statement of reassurance comes out of the FAZ camp. Ashfold Mamelodi, a friend of Kalusha I might add, comes in and talks nonsence about the petitioners who are simply practizing their constitutional rights, I mean the list is endless. The only sad part about this whole episode is that FIFA seems to be sympathetic to the Kalusha click and I fear that this less than objective stand by them will allow this current group of crooks at FAZ to kill our football. Lord help us

    Kalu was duly elected. I am not saying points been raised against him and FAZ are not valid. But if you know how FIFA works, it is a waste of time even to petition. Remember how FIFA supported Mulonga while the Chiluba government said it had nothing to do with FAZ? My point is why not wait for next elections and vote them out?

  62. kk11 on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 4:26 PM 

    The reaction to this rumor is indictive of the state of Zambia on the Football front and in Politics. The food fights, petty statements and alice in wonderland comments are unbelievable. Fact is a lot of peopel here love to wrap Themselves in the Zambian flag and claim greatness when the naked eye can see the real truth which is to the contrary to most of the claims.
    1) Renard has every right to see out his contract and decide if he wants to stay or not.
    2) If he goes to Angola or any other destination, it will simply be because his working relationship with the managers of Football in that country will allow him to succeed at his job.
    3) Facilities, be they stadia or training facilities will be much better than here in Zambia.
    4) FAZ already know that Renard might not re-sign, so the imperative is upon them to make contigency plans in the event he decides to bolt.
    5) Face it, the man has a higher profile now than when he came to Zambia simply ased on what he has managed to accomplish with us in the last 2 Years.
    6) He will play this guessing game until he cant anymore and gets the best deal possible for him. I laugh when the some on this blog curse him out and call him names, simply because he is a hard bargainer. I have news for you guys, the business is not for the weak hearted and small minded. Renard owes us nothing and vice versa, this is simply business and do not take it personal. I dont think Renard is insulting us, the man just calls it how it is. Now all those who wnat to claim patriotism and wrap themselves in the flag exhibiting childish tantrums, while hurling insults at Renard just because he is taking a tough bargaining stance on principle…… i pitty u.

    There is more i would like to say but time is not with me, i might just write a blog……

  63. Chips on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 4:37 PM 

    Not tabling a tangible job offer to HR might cause him to be on a job hunting spree. But problems with the clubs, i don’t agree to that. It was one disgruntled man who has been bitter from the last time he lost election and want to create an impression that there is a criss in Zedian soccer. now that he has been shown the boot, we shall be talking about developmental issues.

  64. ROK on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 4:42 PM 

    You should realise that FIFA does not condone government interference but FIFA cannot stop the councillors from petitioning FAZ and hence the FAZecutive being jittery. If it was government, FAZ could have reported them to FIFA by now but this is untenable because councilors have the mandate to withdraw their earlier mandate if they so wish. Waiting till the next elections? but should this be done at the expense of good governance? There is no law that say even if things become bad people should hold on till next elections. Mind you a month of unguideded recklessness can cause havoc and leave things in some irreparable damage.@chamz

  65. KACHEPA on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 4:43 PM 

    Big Steve from SA :

    KACHEPA :Mbola has joined power dynamos

    We are keeping it serious here because we are discussing serious matters. Keep the jokes on other sites please.

    I hope you will say the same when it comes out in the papers

  66. Logic on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 4:54 PM 

    chamz :

    Logic :If the allegations that Simataa has raised are baseless, why deny him an opportunity to embarass himself with this petition. This situation is getting uglier by the day. And this Kasengele chap, who the hell does he think he is to say he does not respond to trivial issues after RAZ asked to have a desk at Football house? Does he honestly think football can function without referees? We have a rogue coach that is not hiding his intentions to bolt yet not even a statement of reassurance comes out of the FAZ camp. Ashfold Mamelodi, a friend of Kalusha I might add, comes in and talks nonsence about the petitioners who are simply practizing their constitutional rights, I mean the list is endless. The only sad part about this whole episode is that FIFA seems to be sympathetic to the Kalusha click and I fear that this less than objective stand by them will allow this current group of crooks at FAZ to kill our football. Lord help us

    Kalu was duly elected. I am not saying points been raised against him and FAZ are not valid. But if you know how FIFA works, it is a waste of time even to petition. Remember how FIFA supported Mulonga while the Chiluba government said it had nothing to do with FAZ? My point is why not wait for next elections and vote them out?

    I have nothing against the election of Kalu. I agree with you he was duly elected and we must respect the constitution on that. We (including FIFA) must also respect the constitutional provision of affiliates who have the right to petition FAZ in the face of misconduct. I do not recall a time in our footballing history that had a myriad of transfer scandals as we now see. Almost every player that has left the country in the last year or so has had some very suspicious clouds or foul cries regarding their departure. Do I think the whole FAZ group needs to go..no. All I’m saying is that FAZ needs to allow itslef to be questioned and be accountable to the Tax payers of our country. If they do not want to be questioned or challenged, then maybe they need to wean themselves from the dependency on tax payer kwachas, but until such a point, we will continue to question dubious dealings and dictatorial leadership. No one has a monopoly of ideas abd the sooner FAZ realizes that, the better for them…Zamfoot is their a way you can provide us with the FAZ constitution on this forum, maybe we are missing something here.

  67. Positive thinking ..aka Awe on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 5:09 PM 

    @Logic
    Sense!!!!!! FAZs record when it comes to player transfers is in great question. The petitions also seem to be personally motivated. There is too much at stake here, and these guys need to sort themselves out; wait for the next election… not this in fighting we are witnessing. No one is benefiting from this at all.

  68. Positive thinking ..aka Awe on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 5:13 PM 

    P.s. I am tired of this “HR linked to……” headlines. It is now officially ridiculous, because for one thing HR has not signed with any of the 20 teams mentioned with the same headline. Also he made those statements about portuguese countries like right after AFCON, and this talk of I will coach a team if they qualify for the world cup….. how can you a coach a team after they have qualified? Thats just lazy, how about saying you will coach team X and get them to the world cup.

  69. Anonymous on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 5:15 PM 

    Logic :

    chamz :
    Logic :If the allegations that Simataa has raised are baseless, why deny him an opportunity to embarass himself with this petition. This situation is getting uglier by the day. And this Kasengele chap, who the hell does he think he is to say he does not respond to trivial issues after RAZ asked to have a desk at Football house? Does he honestly think football can function without referees? We have a rogue coach that is not hiding his intentions to bolt yet not even a statement of reassurance comes out of the FAZ camp. Ashfold Mamelodi, a friend of Kalusha I might add, comes in and talks nonsence about the petitioners who are simply practizing their constitutional rights, I mean the list is endless. The only sad part about this whole episode is that FIFA seems to be sympathetic to the Kalusha click and I fear that this less than objective stand by them will allow this current group of crooks at FAZ to kill our football. Lord help us

    Kalu was duly elected. I am not saying points been raised against him and FAZ are not valid. But if you know how FIFA works, it is a waste of time even to petition. Remember how FIFA supported Mulonga while the Chiluba government said it had nothing to do with FAZ? My point is why not wait for next elections and vote them out?

    I have nothing against the election of Kalu. I agree with you he was duly elected and we must respect the constitution on that. We (including FIFA) must also respect the constitutional provision of affiliates who have the right to petition FAZ in the face of misconduct. I do not recall a time in our footballing history that had a myriad of transfer scandals as we now see. Almost every player that has left the country in the last year or so has had some very suspicious clouds or foul cries regarding their departure. Do I think the whole FAZ group needs to go..no. All I’m saying is that FAZ needs to allow itslef to be questioned and be accountable to the Tax payers of our country. If they do not want to be questioned or challenged, then maybe they need to wean themselves from the dependency on tax payer kwachas, but until such a point, we will continue to question dubious dealings and dictatorial leadership. No one has a monopoly of ideas abd the sooner FAZ realizes that, the better for them…Zamfoot is their a way you can provide us with the FAZ constitution on this forum, maybe we are missing something here.

    ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THIS MATE?

  70. Anonymous on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 5:17 PM 

    Abundant talent?Does it mean there isn’t in Zambia?We all know its a money thing these days, not only passion. I would not blame him.It would almost be like turning down a promotion.

  71. Anonymous on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 5:18 PM 

    MR JOURNALIST! THE BOY HAS JOINED A PREMIERSHIP CLUB. THIS IS INSIDER INFO OKAY BOSS!

    @Logic

  72. Anonymous on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 5:20 PM 

    Anonymous :

    Logic :

    chamz :

    Logic :If the allegations that Simataa has raised are baseless, why deny him an opportunity to embarass himself with this petition. This situation is getting uglier by the day. And this Kasengele chap, who the hell does he think he is to say he does not respond to trivial issues after RAZ asked to have a desk at Football house? Does he honestly think football can function without referees? We have a rogue coach that is not hiding his intentions to bolt yet not even a statement of reassurance comes out of the FAZ camp. Ashfold Mamelodi, a friend of Kalusha I might add, comes in and talks nonsence about the petitioners who are simply practizing their constitutional rights, I mean the list is endless. The only sad part about this whole episode is that FIFA seems to be sympathetic to the Kalusha click and I fear that this less than objective stand by them will allow this current group of crooks at FAZ to kill our football. Lord help us

    Kalu was duly elected. I am not saying points been raised against him and FAZ are not valid. But if you know how FIFA works, it is a waste of time even to petition. Remember how FIFA supported Mulonga while the Chiluba government said it had nothing to do with FAZ? My point is why not wait for next elections and vote them out?

    I have nothing against the election of Kalu. I agree with you he was duly elected and we must respect the constitution on that. We (including FIFA) must also respect the constitutional provision of affiliates who have the right to petition FAZ in the face of misconduct. I do not recall a time in our footballing history that had a myriad of transfer scandals as we now see. Almost every player that has left the country in the last year or so has had some very suspicious clouds or foul cries regarding their departure. Do I think the whole FAZ group needs to go..no. All I’m saying is that FAZ needs to allow itslef to be questioned and be accountable to the Tax payers of our country. If they do not want to be questioned or challenged, then maybe they need to wean themselves from the dependency on tax payer kwachas, but until such a point, we will continue to question dubious dealings and dictatorial leadership. No one has a monopoly of ideas abd the sooner FAZ realizes that, the better for them…Zamfoot is their a way you can provide us with the FAZ constitution on this forum, maybe we are missing something here.

    ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THIS MATE?

    Sure about what? Be specific

  73. Anonymous on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 6:29 PM 

    Uncle Bobs :The fact that Kalu has called on Simataa who responded shows that there no permanent enemies in Sport. It should be beyond personalities lest we lose focus like Kalu has. One would expect that after dribbling delegates at that AGM (like FTJ tried the 3rd term) Kalu himself gave up after too much pressure. If he manages to dribble the many concerns that have been raised that have nothing to do whether SS would work with him or not will haunt him again. The first honourable thing Kalu can do is to face his pak the GS and ask him to step aside. The issue at hand is that FAZ in the same way they,ve quoted the constitution in suspending SS should also face up to the charges levelled against them so that posterity can judge us objectively. Bringing in personal lives is myopic (albeit respecting such opinions)in my opinion. The saying says you can run but you can’t hide-where are Chitoba, Koyi, Mahtani and FTJ today that abrogated set procedures?). For a copy of Peter Bishonga’s report SMS your email addresses on 0977 781007. Abash CORRUPTION nabu MWANSA KABINGA pantu umu akakwa nombaline.

    Iwe uncle bobs iwe,what has mahtani done to you kanshi?its like everytime you post a comment the name mahtani does not miss.mudala leave those people alone,this is a football site

  74. Justice Kafusha on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 7:04 PM 

    Mabbwana :

    Justice Kafusha :I think regarding the issue of HR, anyone would do that if your employers are not coming with an offer. Saying FAZ would like to extend HR’s contract is not enough. FAZ must come up with a concrete offer and the rest will be up to HR. But when nothing is happening HR has to look at other options as his current contract expires ultimo May 2010.And when you add the current state of affairs between clubs and FAZ, which sensible person would love to stay. Things are just not OK in Zambian football as at now and in the end it is us soccer loving fans who will suffer. Bwafya

    You know JK were I have a problem with HR is here, it might be that he hasn’t been offered the extension yet, but has he offered himself for the Zambian job. A lot of speculation a lot of rumors but he doesn’t say anything himself and these reports keep coming. The only thing we have heard from him is his open desire to leave his current job.If he was really interested in sticking around, he could have said something to that effect just to kill the rumors.

    While I understand your point regading HR, don’t you think that HR feels his value has increased after taking Zambia to the 1/4 at AFCON, such that he feels that it is not him but FAZ to take the first step. One thing is for sure HR will not sign a contarct under the sam conditions, not after AFCON

    Cheers

  75. Justice Kafusha on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 7:04 PM 

    contract

  76. don fabio on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 7:59 PM 

    wat happend to the rumours of kalaba nd

  77. Asilikale on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 9:26 PM 

    Theres no way in qualifying games Evil Renard knw he was the worst coach,then at afcom in less than 3weeks he became a gud coach,where on Earth wud u b a better coach in that short time and boast u want to coach a bg team.Mr Evil Renard,all countries watched chipolopolo was suppozd to storm the final bt u stood a stumbling blok and we never failed bt u evil made us fail,he-goat.Go evn our chldren knws ua a latest failure in children generation ala.

  78. CorineColeman32 on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 9:33 PM 

    This is understandable that cash can make people autonomous. But how to act when one has no money? The one way only is to get the credit loans and secured loan.

  79. Logic on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 10:03 PM 

    According to Lusaka times, Sunday Nkonde the FAZ displinary comittee chairman has overturned the suspension of Simataa describing it as null and void.

  80. AS on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 11:49 PM 

    We are tired of ahr. Let him go. The guy is not interested in coaching Zambia. He is now giving execuses such that you can see his intentions.
    Is there no talent in Zambia. Stadia in Angola was built recently in prep for AFON. Angola was at the world cup before they built that stadia. Zambia has always beaten Angola except for two times or so????? HR has been hunting for a job for a long time. My conclusion is a he is a strategist, learn on the job, do a trick and get a bigger job.

    Please, do not worry, the HR guy ios not interested any more, and those who are genuine can agree with me, than Zambia’s quarter finals was not coz of HR coz his tactics were wrong in most of the games.
    Come on Zambia, lets move on, we can be better!!!! Those who think HR was Zambia’s answer, are myopic.

  81. abena mazi on Tue, 9th Mar 2010 11:59 PM 

    guyz renard still needs zambia more than we need him!!!!!

  82. shenton on Wed, 10th Mar 2010 1:02 AM 

    HR HR everyday awe, he can go if he wants, somalia need a coach right now. as for the mbola issue if hes at power then it serves him right for cheating and shunning his club in Armenia, very soon we’ll be playing qualifiers but our administrators are just fighting,what a country

  83. ROK on Wed, 10th Mar 2010 8:31 AM 

    This is the kind of thinking that will take our game to greater heights. Bravo man for this elaborate and articulate type of thinking.@Logic

  84. tino on Wed, 10th Mar 2010 8:35 AM 

    FAZ disciplinary committee chairperson Sunday Nkonde yesterday nullified the executive committee’s decision to suspend football administrator Simataa Simataa. Its another comedy of errors within FAZ.

  85. Vincent Numbwa on Wed, 10th Mar 2010 8:55 AM 

    HR problems should not be confused with issues at footballhouse. I dont blame the eyes on the ball team so much becouse they have tried. It is people like Simata who cause un called for conflicts by being too critical of FAZ all the time. Let us not burry our heads in sand and feel simata gives more than he takes from football, it is Kalu time to lead FAZ let us give him space to run football house.

    If Simata were as sensible as most people are blinded to believe he should have known that FAZ has a mandate to run football in Zambia up to the next elections and that FAZ is not subject to Simata’s opinion however ‘good’ they may be. I have followed simata for long time he has never said anything good about Kalu. As fans we should be carefull not be drawn in wars that we do not even understand.

    For the sake of football let us move on and stop this name calling. We can come and judge FAZ after their tenure of office and show them the door if they will not have performed to our expectation than waste our energy on petitions that will never improve our game.

  86. Uncle Bobs on Wed, 10th Mar 2010 12:18 PM 

    Anonymous, if you are in Zambia, meet me and you see what Mahtani has done to Zambians and above me. Leadership and research is about drawing comparisons and not limiting ourselves to soccer (lest we think just playing soccer are the qualifications for playing). I have nothing to hide and if you want walk into any Finance Bank Branch and ask about how i respected Corporate Governance and voiced out my concerns about Zambians being mistreated, be my guest. I walked out with my head high. Please give me a call 0977 781007. Strange you have not questioned what FTJ did to me. Please come out in the open albeit optional.

  87. mutu on Wed, 10th Mar 2010 4:44 PM 

    We are tired of sepeculation about the coach`s intention of living the talented chipolo polo boys. We all know that the boys are good whether Lenard leaves or not Chipolo polo remains a team to reckone with. Some one better to take the team to a higher level will be found until we win the trophy.

  88. Zimandola on Wed, 10th Mar 2010 4:58 PM 

    Uncle Bobs :Anonymous, if you are in Zambia, meet me and you see what Mahtani has done to Zambians and above me. Leadership and research is about drawing comparisons and not limiting ourselves to soccer (lest we think just playing soccer are the qualifications for playing). I have nothing to hide and if you want walk into any Finance Bank Branch and ask about how i respected Corporate Governance and voiced out my concerns about Zambians being mistreated, be my guest. I walked out with my head high. Please give me a call 0977 781007. Strange you have not questioned what FTJ did to me. Please come out in the open albeit optional.

    What are you trying to tell us Uncle Bobs?

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