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Zambia’s unsung Afcon star

February 6th, 2010

Is Lwandamina the unsung AFCON star?

by Augustine Mukoka, The Post Newspaper

SO Egypt are the African champions again? Not only once but in three successive editions. And that’s on a continent with 51 other countries.

Maybe five of the countries – Ghana, Cote d’Ivoire, Algeria, Nigeria and Cameroon – had exhausted their ammunition on World Cup campaigns.

The rest dipped their efforts in the well of honour but not as deep as the Pharaohs – a record seven titles, three of which are in succession since 2006.

And Zambia? The celebrations are too loud to ignore but the furthest our dear Chipolopolo could go was a quarterfinal loss to Nigeria, 5-4 on penalties.

Not to take anything away from Herve Renard’s team, they posted some good displays against Tunisia, Cameroon, Gabon and Nigeria.

Yet I think the team could have done much better than reflected considering the state of our opponents at the competition.

Tunisia fielded a youthful team reconstituted three months before the tournament, Cameroon has had a limping side with age naturally calling on most of its stars to phase out and Nigeria are at their lowest ebb in recent times.

African football legend Abedi Pele rightly observed that the level of competition at the 27th edition was not up to scratch.

Therefore, a full strength Zambian side playing some of its finest football in 14 years should have been among the best four – if not the winners.

Undoubtedly, there was very little hope for any meaningful showing by Zambia going into the Africa Cup of Nations, owing to a scrappy record during the qualifiers.

A little more of the Africa Cup performance is what was expected of Chipolopolo during the qualifiers and I’m sure we would have been talking of South Africa 2010 World Cup but Renard’s response will be; ‘Zambians think their team is the best in the world.’ No, that’s not an illusionary thought. Zambia has the potential to become the best in Africa. Look at how Chipolopolo with boys from humble leagues faired at the continental showpiece.

The belief the boys demonstrated was impressive, the verve astounding, the unity only befitting more than a quarterfinal exit.

Unfortunately, luck least manifests when highly expected and that’s how I sum up our outing to Angola although Renard wants us to believe he has delivered the extraordinary. No! Not as far as Zambia is concerned. He has added a good element to the team but nothing beyond what our history holds.

Most significant for Zambia is the importance to consolidate the youth structures considering the benefits as demonstrated by the current team.

If you scan through the 23-member team and take a look into the past junior national teams, you will know what I’m referring to.
And one man who sat out and proudly watched the team produce some sparks was Renard’s deputy – George Lwandamina.

Lwandmina’s contributions are unnoticed almost earning the nickname ‘cone-master’ but his footprints are visible in the performance of the team.

Skipper Christopher Katongo and his brother Felix’s character at national level was spotted after Lwandamina fondly known as ‘Chicken Geo’ tapped the duo from Forest Rangers into the Zambia Army side, Green Buffaloes.
Rainford Kalaba, Stopilla Sunzu, Emmanuel Mayuka, Hichani Himoonde, Dennis Banda, Clifford Mulenga, Jacob Banda, William Njobvu have all danced to Lwandamina’s fine-tuning tactics at youth level over the last six years.

The likes of Jacob Mulenga, Francis Kasonde, Isaac Chansa, Noah Chivuta and Collins Mbesuma including Christopher have traces of Peter Kaumba’s contribution at Under-23 level. They have now matured and Renard can swim in raving reviews as the best coach Zambia has ever engaged. Kalusha also takes the credit for Jacob and James Chamanga while Patrick Phiri apportions due cognition for the likes of Chintu Kampamba and Joseph Musonda. Renard ‘s discoveries in Emmanuel Mbola and Thomas Nyirenda are also good.

But its Lwandamina’s association with the youth structures, however weak they maybe, since 2004 that hugely influences today’s Chipolopolo if credit goes to coaches. And he is a worthy mention to their outing at the competition. He is my unsung star at the Africa Cup of Nations.

It is for this reason that I firmly believe in equipping local coaches by training them as well as providing sufficient exposure for our sport to develop.

Rest assured, they will not jump on a modest quarterfinal placing to market themselves at midnight to a ‘big’ African team in the midst of a tournament by crying out the loudest like Renard did.

I have known about Renard’s dream to coach a ‘big’ African team for sometime and I have no problems with such ambitions but not at the expense of Chipolopolo.

Renard should pause and ask himself if any of those big teams he is courting would have dared accepting his CV when he was in Ghana. In addition to that, it is also important for him to reflect on his abilities.

If he guided Malawi, Swaziland or Lesotho to the Africa Cup, will they have made the last eight? My hat will definitely be off to him as the African Jose Mourinho if what he did to Zambia was in Madagascar or Mauritius.
It reminds me of what a Ghanaian colleague once said; ‘Renard needs Zambia more than you need him.’ I will not be wrong to agree with him further.
Suffice to say, I understand how Renard’s excitement has became uncontrollable after a quarterfinal exit. It was his first time as head coach but rather a mediocre target for a country like Zambia.
Renard owes his little success so far to Zambia’s rich football talent and not vice versa. It will be good if he respected this great footballing nation.

Renard, Erick on Kalumiana Kalumiana
It’s not surprising that FAZ communications officer Erick Mwanza and Renard are still basking in the Africa Cup hangover to justify their continued jungle-like attacks on Post sports journalist Kalumiana Kalumiana during the Africa Cup of Nations in Angola.

Firstly, there is no justification in Erick’s decision to bar Kalumiama from covering Chipolopolo in Angola but he is obviously inspired by their boss Kalusha Bwalya. They all view the truth when laid bare to their face as a serious obstacle in their selfish ambitions.

My advise to Erick is to go back and consult his job description to get a better understanding about it, otherwise he is defeating the purpose of having a communications officer at Football House. Additionally, telling the truth will not harm Erick but instead help him execute his duties professionally.
But trusting Erick will tell the truth is equivalent to testing the depth of the river with your feet. I have spoken to a number of players that were in Angola about the meeting Erick is claiming resolved Kalumiana should not be around the Zambia hotel. The feedback I get is contrary to Erick’s statements. It’s not strange.

It’s a surprise change from Renard that his attacks are not at those who critisiced him and his team during the qualifiers but Kalumiana alone.

I think the Frenchman is applying double-standards and giving us versions that suit him.
In Benguela, he directed his venom at those that had criticised him and the team in the presence of Xavier Manchinshi (Times of Zambia), Robinson Kunda (Zambia Daily Mail) and the international media.
He said he was hitting back at his perceived critics after the team qualified to the quarterfinals but at Football House on Wednesday, it was one journalist. Which version of Renard’s statement should we believe – Benguela or Football House?

Monsieur Renard, no Zambian, journalists inclusive will tolerate mediocre performance with defeats from non-entities like Zanzibar unless they covered themselves in the veil of pretence.

I actually attempted to contact Renard on his mobile to clarify a few points I found misleading about Kalumiana at his press briefing.

He didn’t respond and reasons are best, rightfully so, known to himself.

That said, I wish to remind Renard that he has been one of the least criticised coaches in Zambia. Failure to nurse the quarterfinal hangover may be understandable today, but even the CHAN bronze was forgotten after Zanzibar coupled Chipolopolo’s misery with a lame Afcon record last year.

Renard has shown very little allegiance to Chipolopolo after Afcon and my view is that he categorically states his future.

The Frenchman must also be reminded that FAZ president Kalusha Bwalya is not Zambian football or vice versa as he mistakenly wants to think.

Little wonder he has no respect for other executive committee members like vice-president Emmanuel Munaile because only Kalusha excavated him from the physical education realm.

Renard was employed by FAZ, not Kalusha alone and is answerable to the entire executive committee. Like Renard and many others, I didn’t agree with Munaile and the technical committee on shaking up the technical bench prior to the Africa Cup of Nations but that does not warrant the uncharacteristic disrespect the Frenchman is subjecting FAZ officials to.

Sadly, this is a self-created problem that mushrooms when an individual is built into some sort of a cult by fellow elected FAZ members.

And Renard is capitalising on it clearly displaying their role as inconsequential to the equation when they are supposed to be key in the management of the game. Take it as a lesson gentlemen and ladies.

Conduct yourself as the gentleman I have thought you are Mr Renard since coming to Zambia instead of dancing to the deranged tune of Football House.

Many thanks to Kalumiana for sitting in perfectly well as I laid back for three weeks to fully concentrate on the action from Angola.

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  1. Zed # 1
    February 8th, 2010 at 14:56 | #1

    The short listing by Nigeria is a true manfestation of how lowly renard is placed in footbal, when he come from Angola talking like the naija job was his. We have a famous African proverb” dont shit in your hut if you dont know where your going”. I bet its Zambia’s turn to pick a better coach. those who are calling for HR to stay kindly give me 2 lists of: 1) his successes 2) the other of his failures in Zambian football. Gents lets be objective, I refuse to call my country a poor footbal nation. Why were commentetors at AFCON saying Zambia is geting back to its potential, because they who we are and what we can achieve. All of you calling HR a good coach & Zambia a poor football nation are nothing but full of mediocracy. What a shame.

  2. justice kafusha
    February 8th, 2010 at 15:07 | #2

    Zed # 1 :The short listing by Nigeria is a true manfestation of how lowly renard is placed in footbal, when he come from Angola talking like the naija job was his. We have a famous African proverb” dont shit in your hut if you dont know where your going”. I bet its Zambia’s turn to pick a better coach. those who are calling for HR to stay kindly give me 2 lists of: 1) his successes 2) the other of his failures in Zambian football. Gents lets be objective, I refuse to call my country a poor footbal nation. Why were commentetors at AFCON saying Zambia is geting back to its potential, because they who we are and what we can achieve. All of you calling HR a good coach & Zambia a poor football nation are nothing but full of mediocracy. What a shame.

    @Zed # 1

    Good points

  3. justice kafusha
    February 8th, 2010 at 15:09 | #3

    1 vinco :lets spend the money in zambia and continue the work of developing the country. If the expatriate coach feel Zambia is a small team let him leave the small team in Zambia. We have enough coaches to our selves. You don’t say that a Zambian coach can not perform. We almost got the Africa cup with a zambian coach. Fred mwila is one.
    For me coach Renard achieved his wishes and dreams,But that’s not the Zambia Standard am sorry. This achievement is only sweet to him, though we can’t deny the fact that we reached the quarter finals after so many years. The coach mind you is not just work but developing his CV, through letting as low after we Have achieved so much in the past.
    You will agree with me that zambia is feared by not only EGYPT but most African countries. Am sure even the Pharaohs want Zambia not to reach the Finals…………………

    Lwandamina can do the job with the help of Janza

  4. Sibs
    February 8th, 2010 at 15:09 | #4

    Anonymous :Scribe were did you get that infor that Katongo is in congo, please next time try to give info that is accurate not based on hear says, kick.com confirmed the return of Felix katongo to sundowns.
    Katongo back at SundownsKatongo back at SundownsPosted: 2010-02-05 14:24
    Mamelodi Sundowns’ aspirations of winning the Absa Premiership title have been boosted by the return of midfielder Felix Katongo from Zambia yesterday.
    Katongo’s return to the Brazilians has dispelled fears that the Zambian international had gone Awol as he did not return immediately back to Chloorkop after the Africa Cup of Nations that was held in Angola.
    Speaking to KickOff.com, the former Jomo Cosmos midfielder says he was happy to be back with the Brazilians and expressed commitment to continue to fight his way into the club’s starting line-up.
    “I had a few problems that I needed to sort out back home in Zambia but now I am back in South Africa and started training with Sundowns today.
    “Even though I have not been playing regularly at Sundowns, I am happy at the club and will continue to fight for my place in the starting line-up,” says Katongo.

    Anonymous the Felix scribe is talking of here is Felix Sunzu the elder brother to Stophila not Felix Katongo.

  5. justice kafusha
    February 8th, 2010 at 15:10 | #5

    Just pay “Chicken G” 15,000 dollars and you will see the results

  6. February 8th, 2010 at 15:11 | #6

    @ROK
    Ya its true.Zamfoot dabates are mere academic exercises.In Zed we talk too much and are lazy.
    Lets put our heads together and gather points for action this year.We need action oriented stories as opposed to’big mouth’competition stories.ACTION PLEASE.

  7. Seen from afar
    February 8th, 2010 at 15:24 | #7

    At the end of the day! We are all Zambians and have Zambia’s interest at heart. FAZ, Kalu, Eric Mwansa and co, don’t feel scared, we will support you because we want to see development , continuity and we want to see success. But you must not get yourself embroiled in unfruitful issues, twisting the truth, condemnation for no good reason!

    We want to support you FAZ, but you are only making it hard for yourself. There are issues that overspilled from two years back and now is the time we resolve them once and for all, because there is no need to fight over football, there is no need to tarnish everybody in a small country, no need to start taking an eye for an eye. Which eyes are going to watch the ball then? FAZ you are in control and it’s you calling the shots!!! We will support you, now assert towards the good of the game, embrace democracy and settle this mess once and for all. Let us have HARMONY and by the time WC let’s be fully ready to go the next step!

    I don’t know anyone from The Post, i don’t know Simataa or anyone, but FAZ, HR you may think some of these people are your worst enemy, they are not, all these different people are your best friend!

    @DaMwiinger
    You are free to post anything you like on Zamfoot, if you have written something, you can post it as a comment and the many readers will give it the credit it deserves. Cheers.

  8. Sibs
    February 8th, 2010 at 15:26 | #8

    justice kafusha :Just pay “Chicken G” 15,000 dollars and you will see the results

    Who is the most qualified Zambian Coach and what Coaching qualification/ License does he have?

  9. Seen from afar
    February 8th, 2010 at 15:31 | #9

    @‚Bolla Pansi
    Can i ask you a question? You can gather all points you want, who is going to get through to FAZ?

  10. justice kafusha
    February 8th, 2010 at 15:33 | #10

    @Sibs

    We have had people who had never coached even a club in Zambia appointed and paid billions with no results. Kalu was getting around 8 to 10 thousand US dollars for doing nothing. He did not even have a record

  11. justice kafusha
    February 8th, 2010 at 15:38 | #11

    Give the Zambian coaching job to Lwandamina under the same conditions as those of HR and you will see

  12. Zed # 1
    February 8th, 2010 at 15:47 | #12

    ‚Bolla Pansi :
    @ROK
    Ya its true.Zamfoot dabates are mere academic exercises.In Zed we talk too much and are lazy.
    Lets put our heads together and gather points for action this year.We need action oriented stories as opposed to’big mouth’competition stories.ACTION PLEASE.

    i thought debating issues is the best way of moving foward. If we all agread on something thats when action can be taken. Just like the proces in parliament thougth we lack the mandate. But surely advocate for rightful thinking. Lets encourage Zamfoot to share some great ideas from here with FAZ through some fora…. But believe you me even Kalu reads these blogs its hard to ignore a lot of voices.

  13. Winza Sichali
    February 8th, 2010 at 16:05 | #13

    Never :I like the post newspaper, however, if the post is to be a leader in sports reporting they need to differentiate sport reporting from politics reporting.At the moment daily mail is the best paper when it comes to sports reporting because the post handles sport stories as though they are talking about these selfish politicians(parasites) of ours.

    I agree with you 100% Never. I equally get the Post every day, but i know that their sports reporting is below par. I equally rate the Daily mail as No: 1 in terms of sports. The post report about local league games on Monday ! They will try to freshen up the stories by adding an angle of controversy, but hey, its still late. Their reports at AFCON were late, but their quest for controversy is what makes them lose the plot. I think there is great room for improvement on their back page. I think i also expect a bit of loyalty from them. When the national team is at war, fighting tooth and nail in the jungles of Angola – is that the time to rabble rouse ? cant the reportage be in a fashion of motivating the boys and spurrring them to reach even higher height ? We should learn a thing or two about patriotism from the British Press. They protect their own. Captain Fantastic ( Steven Gerrard ) can box DJs in a pub ( foolish thing to do ), but the British press will not give him a push to fall overboard when there is a crucial world cup qualifier in sight .

  14. chamz
    February 8th, 2010 at 16:20 | #14

    Winza Sichali :

    Never :I like the post newspaper, however, if the post is to be a leader in sports reporting they need to differentiate sport reporting from politics reporting.At the moment daily mail is the best paper when it comes to sports reporting because the post handles sport stories as though they are talking about these selfish politicians(parasites) of ours.

    I agree with you 100% Never. I equally get the Post every day, but i know that their sports reporting is below par. I equally rate the Daily mail as No: 1 in terms of sports. The post report about local league games on Monday ! They will try to freshen up the stories by adding an angle of controversy, but hey, its still late. Their reports at AFCON were late, but their quest for controversy is what makes them lose the plot. I think there is great room for improvement on their back page. I think i also expect a bit of loyalty from them. When the national team is at war, fighting tooth and nail in the jungles of Angola – is that the time to rabble rouse ? cant the reportage be in a fashion of motivating the boys and spurrring them to reach even higher height ? We should learn a thing or two about patriotism from the British Press. They protect their own. Captain Fantastic ( Steven Gerrard ) can box DJs in a pub ( foolish thing to do ), but the British press will not give him a push to fall overboard when there is a crucial world cup qualifier in sight .

    Post reporters must not just become the news themselves-that is where the problem is, the want to fight and cover the story, CAF bans journalists fron hotels, they go in and when they are chased, they write a story.

  15. DaMwiinger
    February 8th, 2010 at 16:35 | #15

    @Seen from afar
    It is quite a lengthy paper for it to be just a comment-four pages. I think I have just resolved to just do my part with more serious people instead of empty debates that don’t lead to anything. Happy debating fellas

  16. Seen from afar
    February 8th, 2010 at 17:02 | #16

    @DaMwiinger
    Maybe that is the reason Zamfoot won’t publish it, but i wouldn’t be quick to say it’s because they don’t agree or something, as they have shown they publish most topics…

    I wish you luck DaMwiinger, i’ve read your comments and i think you are smart guy who form his arguments with good consideration. I hope you find a worthy platform to state your case or air your views.

  17. Man ceasor
    February 8th, 2010 at 17:15 | #17

    can some one tel me wat chicken geroge has achieved in terms of zambian football.

  18. Positive thinking ..aka Awe
    February 8th, 2010 at 17:26 | #18

    This article started off nicely enough, but then fell into the whole Renard/FAZ Vs Post. It would be nice to see some objective journalism on the part of the post for once. That aside;

    Everybody on this blog knows I am supporter of HR, but I have to admit disappointment in the way he handled himself after Zambia was knocked out. The whole “I want to go somehwere else” talks shows somewat a lack of commitment to the team on his part. I have seen many coaches who show up at teams and they never talk down their teams or talk about their ambitions of being somewhere else. I can’t fault his ambitiousness, which I think Zambian coaches may need more of.

    I am however a fan of consistency. I am a firm believer in that we cannot expect a power house to be built in a day. Take for example Clemens Westerhoff, he coached the Super Eagles consisting mainly of local stars in the 1990 AFCON, they came 3rd, in 1992 with Westerhoff still in charge they were knocked out by Ghana in the qtr finals, in ‘94 they not only qualified for the WC, but also won AFCON. The same local boys by then were featuring in leagues all over Europe. Look at Egypt and Shehata, these are the fruits of consistency.

    Our coaches on average have each lasted about 2yrs. Which is honestly not long enough to build a formidable team, unless you walk in on some really exceptional talent. The talent is there in Zambia, but the essential commodity is time required to build and admin foresight. So for the sake of development, and narturing the talent… we should stick with HR and his technical bench allow the team to grow and get better. As for FAZ, they should really ask HR if he is committed to Zambia, and he should conduct himself as such.

  19. justice kafusha
    February 8th, 2010 at 17:32 | #19

    Benin have sacked their entire coaching and playing staff following last month’s Africa Cup of Nations.

    In a statement, the country’s football association cited indiscipline and unpatriotism in Angola as the reason for dissolution of the national team.

    The Squirrels finished third in Group C with a solitary point after losing to Nigeria and Egypt and a draw with Mozambique.

    Benin were led in Angola by French coach Michel Dussuyer.

  20. justice kafusha
    February 8th, 2010 at 17:34 | #20

    Man ceasor :can some one tel me wat chicken geroge has achieved in terms of zambian football.

    He took the under/20 to the world Cup and reached the second round. HR failed Vs under20 Egypt in group stages, due to his target issue but he is still your coach

  21. justice kafusha
    February 8th, 2010 at 17:41 | #21

    @Positive thinking ..aka Awe

    Awe I like your contributions, but I have a different view on certain issues. I do not agree with the notion that our coaches are average cause if given ama conditions that are like those of ama learner drivers like HR, what do you think will come out. local coaches are paid bones meat and yet we expect steak in terms of results, takwaba

  22. The Mwine
    February 8th, 2010 at 17:47 | #22

    We ar bak in the Lab, now i dont know wat u guys wat to come up with after afcon, coz yo mixture looks like poison to me. HR & George Tried with the material in zambia that we currently hav. Try to make yo squard that u think will rich the finalz i bet i full of indispined players both on the pitch & off. Zambia is just finished its high time we startd from the grass roots, like Janza’s flook (cosafa) we capitalise on those young stars train that intake of players if their trainable, see how far we can reach with those chaps. Not those tired legs we hav.

  23. Positive thinking ..aka Awe
    February 8th, 2010 at 18:20 | #23

    @justice kafusha
    Ba Justice I didn’t say our coaches are average, I was saying that “our coaches (foregin/domestic) on average have only lasted 2 yrs” in the position of coaching the national team.

    I don’t think 2 yrs is enough time to do the job. How can we epxect results when we go to every AFCON with a new man in charge. We expect results now, but we don’t even have a process or facilities in place to get the job done.

  24. Positive thinking ..aka Awe
    February 8th, 2010 at 18:25 | #24

    @justice kafusha
    Oh sorry to add on; You are absolutely right as far as local coaches. They get little to nothing, and not nearly enough logistical support. It is criminal, the way we treat our own and yet allow inexperienced people to come in with better conditions of service. Either way I still support keeping HR in his post as coach, but if we ever engage a Zambian coach he should be given a contract and enough respect and space to do his job. Problem is our guys are not ambitious, look at Kalu he said he wanted to be treated x,y, and z and he got what he wanted…. what is preventing Peter Kaumba or George to say the same thing? Patriotism is not just about giving … your country also has to give you the tools and the incentive to do the job.

  25. Kai Kai
    February 8th, 2010 at 18:47 | #25

    Augustine Mukoka, as a journalist you should know that there are 53 countries in Africa, not 52. Your article is a hack job against HR and some FAZ officials and not meant to celebrate Lwandamina as the unsung hero of the Nations Cup. Why give him credit for those players just because they played for him at Under-20 level. Why not give credit to the club and youth coaches that developed those players? When Manchester United or Barcelona excell who gets the praise, Ferguson and Pep Guardiola or the youth coaches that developed their players? After all, all Lwandamina did was select exceptional players good enough to represent Zambia at that age level. he played no matter in developing them. Why not give credit to Nenani Banda and his Chiparamba Academy since eight of the players in Angola were groomed by Chiparamba? Your logic is off, my friend. I supported you when Kalusha barred you from that hotel in France and it was wrong for him to strike you. But this is not how you get back at him and HR. Intelligent people will always see through any argument and will side with who ever has the best argument. And by the way, Zambia is not a great footballing nation as some of my other colleagues here have pointed out. Define greatness? We have never won the highest title in Africa and have not even qualified for the World Cup even with five places now available to Africa. FIFA could increase that allocation to ten and we would still not qualify. So HR is right when he says Zambians think they have a very good team. That’s the hard, cold truth and you should know that since you travel around Africa and have seen the other teams play.

  26. Gametime12
    February 8th, 2010 at 19:04 | #26

    justice kafusha :
    @Positive thinking ..aka Awe
    Awe I like your contributions, but I have a different view on certain issues. I do not agree with the notion that our coaches are average cause if given ama conditions that are like those of ama learner drivers like HR, what do you think will come out. local coaches are paid bones meat and yet we expect steak in terms of results, takwaba

    So whose fault is it? Faz or the local coaches? Seems like local coaches just don’t have balls at all and that’s the only problem that I have with Zambian coaches. Before anyone gets hired as head coach ba justice there has to be an agreement, so why then do the local coaches settle for bones? In my world if a person can not stand up for themselves then they are not fit to be leaders. Local coaches are push overs ba justice, they are just puppets.

  27. Tm jics
    February 8th, 2010 at 19:47 | #27

    You guys are funny and boring. Anyway Zamfoot whats the latest on the upcoming fixture: CHAN, AFCON 2012, COSAFA and the 2011 all african games.

  28. justice kafusha
    February 8th, 2010 at 21:13 | #28

    Gametime12 :

    justice kafusha :@Positive thinking ..aka Awe Awe I like your contributions, but I have a different view on certain issues. I do not agree with the notion that our coaches are average cause if given ama conditions that are like those of ama learner drivers like HR, what do you think will come out. local coaches are paid bones meat and yet we expect steak in terms of results, takwaba

    So whose fault is it? Faz or the local coaches? Seems like local coaches just don’t have balls at all and that’s the only problem that I have with Zambian coaches. Before anyone gets hired as head coach ba justice there has to be an agreement, so why then do the local coaches settle for bones? In my world if a person can not stand up for themselves then they are not fit to be leaders. Local coaches are push overs ba justice, they are just puppets.

    Brother I understand you so much, but my point is FAZ must first be the ones to make Zambian coaches feel valuable

  29. justice kafusha
    February 8th, 2010 at 21:16 | #29

    Why was Kalu made into something he was not??

  30. BuzzEd
    February 8th, 2010 at 21:20 | #30

    Why keep a coach who is not patriotic to his employers and the team he is coaching when there are so many that would like to be in his position? I say get rid of him. If HR was ambitious as he is in trying to find a new job to take Zambia to the next AFCON final and qualify to the 2014 world cup, then I would absolutely want that he continues the great work he started. At that point, his ambitions would be approprietly directed toward the dream and vision of Zambian football. Who would not want to keep such a coach? However, this guys does not see Zambia winning the AFCON next year or qualifying to the world cup. As far as we he is concerned, we are too small a team to achieve such greatness or win the Africa Cup and take him to the next world cup. It defies logic as to why HR should remain as head coach. He has become too big headed, his pride and inferiority complex is what cost us the game against Cameroon and Nigeria by not making the right substitutions and giving the penalty to Thomas Nyerenda when Clifford Mulenga or J. Mulenga would have been the right choice. He has no passion for Zambian football or seeing Zambia become his “big team”. He does not want success with Zambia but with a team elsewhere. And you still want him to be your coach! I would beg for him to stay if he had won the AFCON. But the guy just took as to the quarter finals for crying out loud! Is he now the hero of Zambian football? Yes it’s been 14yrs since we made it to that level but that does not mean he now earns the right to disprespect Zambian football despite not winning the AFCON or going to the World Cup. He is should not come and kill the belief and hope that Zambian fans have always had, that their team is the best even why they keep losing. Because that my friends is the spirit of patriotism and what has kept Zambian football going amid lack of proper organization and infrastructure. HR crossed the forbiden line in my opinion, his ambition, however good an attribute, when directed at developing Zambian football becomes a cancer to our dreams and objectives as nation and thus he should be discarded! The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

  31. justice kafusha
    February 8th, 2010 at 21:21 | #31

    Tm jics :You guys are funny and boring. Anyway Zamfoot whats the latest on the upcoming fixture: CHAN, AFCON 2012, COSAFA and the 2011 all african games.

    Iwe this is a blog. If it is boring why don’t you come up with interesting items

  32. justice kafusha
    February 8th, 2010 at 21:22 | #32

    @BuzzEd

    amen

  33. BuzzEd
    February 8th, 2010 at 21:27 | #33

    *…..team is the best even WHEN.

    *…..however good an attribute, when NOT directed.

  34. Positive thinking ..aka Awe
    February 8th, 2010 at 21:49 | #34

    @BuzzEd
    You know what? I agree with you. If HR does not want to do this, and does not want to coach a small team then maybe we should let him move on. It is pretty obvious from his actions after AFCON that maybe he doesn’t want to be here.

    I too would much rather have a passionate and committed coach, than someone who is looking to go somewhere better. I was a proponent of understanding our relationship with HR was limited and at least based on achieving mutual success, but at this time I would like to see some commitment. If he doesn’t want to be here then give someone else who does the opportunity… given that he commits to a 2014 cause …infact win AFCON by 2014 and qualify for 2014 World Cup that should be the target…4 yrs is twice the lifespan of any other person who has coached Zambia.

  35. Anonymous
    February 8th, 2010 at 22:15 | #35

    JUSTICE KAFUSHA! WHAT HAS KALUSHA DONE TO YOU!DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND FOOTBALL POLITICS!

    WELL IN CASE YOU DIDN’T KNOW THIS, “KALUSHA IS FIFA’S CHILD”

  36. Man ceasor
    February 8th, 2010 at 23:00 | #36

    whn a player says he wants 2play 4a big club no problem,4a coach its hell in a cell.

  37. kk11
    February 9th, 2010 at 00:07 | #37

    @Positive thinking ..aka Awe
    Renard is just playing his cards to see what he can get. Zambia is his best bet right now and he knows. The 2 weeks away from the coversation will do him good, he can weigh his options and decide whats in his best interest. I just hope that the conditions he wants improved ” in the FAZ family” are seriously addressed so he can sign on for longer than the 2 years. Thing is the man is not after the money and no one here has aplauded him for that candor and honesty. He is as good as they come with the money we are offering at this position.

    On the local coaches scean my honest oppinion is that we have men who capable of achieving results, but the problem is most of these guys are really not given enough respect, space, wiggle room e.t.c plus conditions where they can work independently without fear, being second geussed or dictated to. They are also not compensated adequately which is another problem as well, but then on the flip side most local coaches do not display that risk taking quality such as un-earthing or trying raw talent. They are comfortable with sticking to the same old script thus more or less ending up with the same old results.

  38. Matafwali
    February 9th, 2010 at 02:09 | #38

    Gametime12 :

    justice kafusha :
    @Positive thinking ..aka Awe
    Awe I like your contributions, but I have a different view on certain issues. I do not agree with the notion that our coaches are average cause if given ama conditions that are like those of ama learner drivers like HR, what do you think will come out. local coaches are paid bones meat and yet we expect steak in terms of results, takwaba

    So whose fault is it? Faz or the local coaches? Seems like local coaches just don’t have balls at all and that’s the only problem that I have with Zambian coaches. Before anyone gets hired as head coach ba justice there has to be an agreement, so why then do the local coaches settle for bones? In my world if a person can not stand up for themselves then they are not fit to be leaders. Local coaches are push overs ba justice, they are just puppets.

    Your argument Gametime12 speaks volumes about FAZ. If FAZ had the best interests of the game at heart, then they would equip and treat Zambian coaches the same. The only solution to this would be to have coaches who are equipped outside FAZ resources so they can demand and command the salaries they are due. That way coaches do not feel they owe their all to FAZ.

  39. Gametime12
    February 9th, 2010 at 07:17 | #39

    Matafwali :

    Gametime12 :

    justice kafusha :
    @Positive thinking ..aka Awe
    Awe I like your contributions, but I have a different view on certain issues. I do not agree with the notion that our coaches are average cause if given ama conditions that are like those of ama learner drivers like HR, what do you think will come out. local coaches are paid bones meat and yet we expect steak in terms of results, takwaba

    So whose fault is it? Faz or the local coaches? Seems like local coaches just don’t have balls at all and that’s the only problem that I have with Zambian coaches. Before anyone gets hired as head coach ba justice there has to be an agreement, so why then do the local coaches settle for bones? In my world if a person can not stand up for themselves then they are not fit to be leaders. Local coaches are push overs ba justice, they are just puppets.

    Your argument Gametime12 speaks volumes about FAZ. If FAZ had the best interests of the game at heart, then they would equip and treat Zambian coaches the same. The only solution to this would be to have coaches who are equipped outside FAZ resources so they can demand and command the salaries they are due. That way coaches do not feel they owe their all to FAZ.

    Ill be the first one to admit that I’d like to see a Zambian coach bring back the afcon or take us to the world cup. I was one the few bloggers that wanted to see Renard take the boys to Angola, I had my own reasons and I’ll speak for myself. The main reason was that I did not see any biases in the team that Renard picked. In fact it is one of the best teams Zambia has ever produced. The team was balanced, Renard might have made tactical blunders from time to time but he had an eye for talent. Especially with the young lads. On the other hand Patric Phiri could probably read the game better than Renard, but his only downfall was the team that he picked (or the team that fans/faz picked for him). Only if Local coaches would be given room to make their own decisions then they’d get things done.

  40. Anonymous
    February 9th, 2010 at 07:26 | #40

    i like your obersation about Patrick Phiri being able to read the game, it is for the same reason that i think patrick should work with HR since phiri has a tactical foresight.@Gametime12

  41. Never
    February 9th, 2010 at 08:00 | #41

    justice kafusha :

    1 vinco :lets spend the money in zambia and continue the work of developing the country. If the expatriate coach feel Zambia is a small team let him leave the small team in Zambia. We have enough coaches to our selves. You don’t say that a Zambian coach can not perform. We almost got the Africa cup with a zambian coach. Fred mwila is one.For me coach Renard achieved his wishes and dreams,But that’s not the Zambia Standard am sorry. This achievement is only sweet to him, though we can’t deny the fact that we reached the quarter finals after so many years. The coach mind you is not just work but developing his CV, through letting as low after we Have achieved so much in the past.You will agree with me that zambia is feared by not only EGYPT but most African countries. Am sure even the Pharaohs want Zambia not to reach the Finals…………………

    Lwandamina can do the job with the help of Janza

    You are right but the biggest problem in that respect is ‘kalijo’ and ‘PHD’.We seem to have trust in foreigners than in our own.But the bible warns us of never trusting a stranger(though you can give them assistance).

  42. Chali cool
    February 9th, 2010 at 08:39 | #42

    justice kafusha :Why was Kalu made into something he was not??

    Iwe Justice! Bushe Kalu alikulila umukashi o shani? I don’t understand why you passionately hate him. Please grow up and contribute positively instead of your usual PHD. Echo mwakatila ubufontini bwa ku kopelwa kuntashi kwa computer.

  43. Bonaventure
    February 9th, 2010 at 09:49 | #43

    @Chali cool
    Kalu has achieved what he has by himself and we can never take the Great Kalu or King Kalu. Go to Holland,Mexico and CAF and the resords are there. he is our son of the soil and we must be proud of his achievements most importantly be the only player South of the equator to win African Footballer of the year(1988). He has done what every player including the like of Weah,Abedi, and other legends who ever dream of. He has made history by going to AFCON as a player, player-Captain, Coach and lastly president. Don’t mix soccer politics with what he has achieved. he has also attained the highest coaching grade UEFA coaching licence grade A. Thats why he qualified to coach for Zambia even though he had not coached in Zambia before. You must also know that he was a club coach in Mexico. Their league is higher than ours. He has also lead a relatively clean life. No known scandals save for Collins transfer allegations. HE WILL REMAIN THE GOLDEN BOY OF ZAMBIAN ANF AFRICAN SOCCER. NO WONDER FIFA,CAF,SAFA etc HAS SEEN IT FIT TO USE HIM. Like someone said don’t assume Kalu doesn’t read such blogs or no one who is close to him doesn’t read this nice blog.

  44. Saimbwende
    February 9th, 2010 at 10:20 | #44

    @justice kafusha
    Iwe Justice twanaka naiwe. Ufule na head sock may be you will start reasoning better.

  45. Dinamo
    February 9th, 2010 at 11:13 | #45

    @DaMwiinger
    DaMwiinger I wish you knew how Zamfoot is struglling to update us on the Zambian game.Guys like Whisper,Mabbwana,Spaks,The Doctor,Ba Zambia attended the meeting we had at NAPSA to see how we can assist Zamfoot and nothing yet has been implemented.Contact Zamfoot so that they forward minutes of the NAPSA meeting.We need to put our heads together and see how we can help Zamfoot to deliver a much more better service we are all going to be proud of.

  46. Uncle Bobs
    February 9th, 2010 at 11:41 | #46

    Ba Bona, that’s why we have a SWOT analysis that should be continuous. But clearly you have only done a SO without a WT analysis. Kalu at the helm of FAZ needs to do a lot more in my opinion, of course not by himself (as per your argument) but through involving OBJECTIVE STAKEHOLDERS that will correct him when he is wrong and not CADRES that just want to associate with his FAME that unfortunately are many. True to word, Kalu has had an illustrous life, but that shouldn’t insulate him from scrutiny. FIFA, CAF,SAFA is made up of men that overstay in offices and have not always been objective in dealing with matters e.g. Kalu slapping a journalist and going scot-free while Maradona was banned for what i perceive a lesser case but also punishable offence. I don’t know whether the Togo issue could have dealt with differently though they followed what’s in black and white that they don’t always do. As for you, i know your history and would always know your line of thought in such issues-ha ha ha!

  47. Uncle Bobs
    February 9th, 2010 at 11:48 | #47

    Bane, let’s not forget how Justice travelled to UK to watch abaiche after getting a written confirmation that all the players would be there. Let’s also not forget how Justice objectively warned us of FIFA repurcussions when Kalu (one that he’s being accused of hating) was suspended by our NSCZ. Let’s be obejective and not base our arguments on SHIFTING SAND principles to borrow Mpombo’s vocabulary. We love Kalu as our son who has made our country proud like Cherise, Lindiwe and now Lukundo Nalungwe (Face of Africa) but certainly not a quarter finalled Zambia in Angola! Kalu do not listen to CADRES that will not add value to your life, but pay attention to divergent view that you should take as FEEDBACK to make you a better person. I for one will not guarantee you patting on the back when you err. I am personally ready to help you in anyway, like i do my beloved Nkana. Be careful of HANGERS ON!

  48. Chali cool
    February 9th, 2010 at 12:36 | #48

    Uncle Bobs :Bane, let’s not forget how Justice travelled to UK to watch abaiche after getting a written confirmation that all the players would be there. Let’s also not forget how Justice objectively warned us of FIFA repurcussions when Kalu (one that he’s being accused of hating) was suspended by our NSCZ. Let’s be obejective and not base our arguments on SHIFTING SAND principles to borrow Mpombo’s vocabulary. We love Kalu as our son who has made our country proud like Cherise, Lindiwe and now Lukundo Nalungwe (Face of Africa) but certainly not a quarter finalled Zambia in Angola! Kalu do not listen to CADRES that will not add value to your life, but pay attention to divergent view that you should take as FEEDBACK to make you a better person. I for one will not guarantee you patting on the back when you err. I am personally ready to help you in anyway, like i do my beloved Nkana. Be careful of HANGERS ON!

    Mudala naimwe! how many people travel to watch their teams and yet they do’t blow the trampet? What about the students in Algeria who went to give support to our team? Whats so special with Justice? Your advice to Kalu is not genuine cause you don’t mean well. Criticism as long as it is positive is good not were your goal is to ensure that you bring down someone. What kind of criticism is it were you always see black even when it is white?

  49. DaMwiinger
    February 9th, 2010 at 13:50 | #49

    Dinamo :@DaMwiinger DaMwiinger I wish you knew how Zamfoot is struglling to update us on the Zambian game.Guys like Whisper,Mabbwana,Spaks,The Doctor,Ba Zambia attended the meeting we had at NAPSA to see how we can assist Zamfoot and nothing yet has been implemented.Contact Zamfoot so that they forward minutes of the NAPSA meeting.We need to put our heads together and see how we can help Zamfoot to deliver a much more better service we are all going to be proud of.

    Dinamo, thanks for that. I appreciate the effort they are making and I am more than willing to help. I have tried to be in touch but have not received any response. I don’t know why. Zamfoot, you have my contact details, please feel free to send me the minutes of the NAPSA meeting

    Rightly or wrongly, and on the basis of what I am seeing on the site, Zamfoot seems to be taking the direction of the Post i.e. focussing on controversy. But I stand corrected. The NAPSA meeting is one of the things I also brought out as a way we as fans can help in practical ways.

  50. February 9th, 2010 at 14:31 | #50

    elo naisa,when toking of a gud coach in zambia, dont 4get simukonda he defended the cosafa in 1998, and lwandamina has never won a cup and not even taken a team to the continental cup up to the quarters. He was a doom to HR, and lets try Fightone and Wedson
    in the meantym as we look for a coach if not Jose the angolan coach or simply Shehatta of Egypt, then same team till 2014. HR has done nothing to praise him about. Tapali mwe bantu palibe

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