February 3, 2010
Happy times: Renard sharing a light moment with the media as Erick Mwanza & U-17 team manager looks on during Wednesday's media briefing
Chipolopolo Boys trainer Herve Renard has revealed that he has been approached by two African countries that have qualified to the World Cup but no official contract has been tabled yet.
And the Frenchman also confirmed that he held talks with one of the football association president of the countries that is courting him though it’s a team that has not qualified to the World Cup.
Meanwhile Zambia has made a steady progress on the Coca Cola/FIFA World rankings from 84th to the 73rd thanks to the impressive show in Angola were they reached the quarter finals.
“I didn’t receive any invitation from the Nigerian federation. I talked with some people but talking is easy. But I like I said every time talking is not signing.
"I never take my phone to call someone but I think people are impressed with the perfomance of Zambia in Angola"
Me…I never take my phone to call someone but I think they were impressed with the way Zambia played,” the Frenchman said
The Frenchman went on to say that if he receives a good concrete offer then FAZ President Kalusha Bwalya will be the first one to know.
“Some countries contacted me and said that it will be a pleasure to work with you’…I said and I repeat that every time is the same that I have a contract up to May 2010.
“If we have to discuss about something first its me off course and secondly is to talk to the President of the federation (Kalusha). That means any contract…any invitation I will receive I inform the President because it’s a good way and I am obliged to do that.
“It’s impossible to leave the country just like that I will respect everybody and the President Kalusha Bwalya ,” Renard said.
Renard was motivated by Munaile’s words
After clarifying his contract issues, the 41 year old then took a swipe at Kalusha’s Vice President, Emmanuel Munaile who coincidently was the delegation leader in Angola.
“Remember in December, some people wanted to put me on paid leave. I didn’t forget,” the 41 year old said referring to Munaile’s statement that changes with be made to the technical bench.
“My motivation for African Cup was important after what I heard from those people. But I respect their decisions, this is football. If you are not able to receive criticism, to be strong then you can’t be coach at the high level. That means it was a very good thing and good motivation for me.
I hope these people didn’t forget because I won’t forget.
Renard was surprised with Munaile’s utterances in the media after he considered people at Football House as family.
“I consider this (Football) House like a family normally that means if you want to approach someone especially your coach, you have to talk with him face to face but not in a newspaper or TV to announce that there will be changes.
Great Kalu with HR in Angola before Zambia's game wit Gabon. Pix courtesy by FAZ website
“I decide on my technical bench. I was fighting to go to Africa with the same technical bench. I was not at 100% satisfaction. It was a good fight for the president Kalusha Bwalya and when I told him we need to keep the same technical bench and we ‘ll qualify for the quarter finals, I was very happy to get his confidence before the Africa Cup.
And now one month after a lot of people are talking about me. You know football, you have to stay with your foot on the floor and relax,” he said.
“A year ago, maybe around Cosafa 2008…one person I was talking with is not here but from a newspaper, The Post. I told him you can criticize me everyday, it’s not my problem but I will tell you something in 2010, I will be a coach of a big team in Africa one day.
“Now if you think I am pretentious, am not. I have a lot of confidence in myself. That means my target to be coach for a very big team in Africa.
The Frenchman jokingly compared himself to Inter Milan boss Jose Mourinho to the way he handles himself in the media.
“If I said I am ambitious, it’s because you know communication in football is very important, Why? He asked
“Mourinho is a fantastic coach because he is a good coach on the pitch as well as outside. He is fantastic with the media and he says is the (Gospel) truth to the journalist everytime,” Renard admiring the special one.
“He has a lot of things most coaches don’t have though they are at the same level…the skill to talk with the newspapers,” he gave a reason why he admires the former Chelsea gaffer.
On the reason why he will dump Zambia for a World Cup bound African country
“I will be fair with you. There are a lot of important things in 2010 in Africa and the World Cup will be here for the first time.
“I think in your job, all of you are dreaming of going to the World Cup and make reports or watch a game. That means, it’s my dream in my life to be a coach of a World Cup team. I am sorry if some people are not happy with me but I am fair with you. My dream one day is to be coach of World Cup (bound) team.
Renard is ready to extend but should a World Cup African bound team offer him a contract he will sign
Renard even gave an example of three times in a row African Cup of Nations winning coach Sheshata that he is on record of having said he wants to coach a team at the World Cup.
“I have received one or two proposals from countries and if they agree to sign with me, my response …you know I think.
“Now I hope I am clear with FAZ and should understand my position and I think I am very clear now because this is 2010 and maybe the next World Cup (Africa) will be in twenty something. It’s a fantastic year for football in Africa and I dream about to be part of it.
“I wake up every morning and my target is to enjoy like I was enjoying at the last African Cup of Nations. It’s not the same atmosphere like when you are playing CECAFA or small tournaments but to be chosen for this job is difficult to refuse. I won’t decide alone because there’s one contract with FAZ and we will see.
“If one team that has qualified to the World Cup wants to sign me they have to make a deal with the federation but I haven’t received a contract yet. There’s only Herve Renard on a shortlist. We have to stay calm and see for the next few weeks what happens.
When asked if he would feel betrayed if FAZ was to enter into a pre-contract with another coach since his future with the national team depends on his dream to coach a World Cup bound African country.
Renard said,”if FAZ want to sign with another coach, they can tell me. This is football and we move on, life continues. I will accept and go somewhere else with the same motivation even if it won’t be a World Cup team. At the moment I haven’t discussed anything with FAZ.
The 41 year old made it clear that if at all he will extend his contract which ends in May, he would like a number of things to be changed but hinted that he is not driven by money.
“Last week I received a huge offer from a club in Dubai but I categorically refused because I am not interested in the money. Money is not important, I think what is important is what you want to achieve in life,” he said.
Part 2 of Herve Renard’s media briefing will published in the next 24 hours. He talks about the tournament in Angola, players and his tactics
92 Comments on "Renard: I ‘ve been approached by two African teams but nothing official yet"
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Bonaventure on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 1:46 PM
We will have to raise the bar otherwise we lose him. He’s being honest. But should he go we have no option but to move forward. Let your profile grow with zambia and you will go places Mr. Renard Herve. Its nice you have cleared the rumours that were flying. Thank You for your honesty.
Achoko on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 2:08 PM
Where to meet Renard?
Winza Sichali on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 2:37 PM
He says he categorically refused a big money move to Dubai, just before AFCON. Its not about money he says but getting the opportunity to be at big stages like the AFCON and world cup. He however seems to be still very annoyed about the Munaile manouvers of sending him on paid leave and getting someone else to take the team to AFCON. That seems to have touched him. Anyway, it was unwise of Munaile’s technical committee to try and pull such a stunt .
Sapaka on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 2:57 PM
Oooh? That is what happened with Munaile. Ok. He is honest. Stay Mr. Renard
Sande on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 3:00 PM
Yes Renard raise your profile farther and then leave. However if you decide o leave, I wish you God`s Blessings.
Amuna Onzuna on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 3:16 PM
Hon Munaile ailed in-law by trying to frustrate Renard,or send him on forced leave.Let honesty prevail,Renard is only being frank,we are not organised as Zambians in the game of Football.
chamz on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 3:41 PM
HR has short comings yes. But I like his honesty, tough stance and refusing to be pushed around. He reminds me of Jose at Inter Milan. I think we need a tough buy like this as coach.
Spaks on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 3:56 PM
Man ceasor on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 3:57 PM
renard wl owayz be his own man,as a coach u dont need 2b push around.so zamfoot u were misleadin us.
Billy on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 4:01 PM
Everyone sets up goals in life. HR’s goals for Zambia were to qualify for Angola 2010, up to the quarter final stage. So let him go if he wants to. There so many coaches out there. Even if the guy signs another contract with Zambia, I think his heart will not be 100% for Zambia as he has constantly been reported that he wants to coach a ‘big team’. At least he is being honest. Let him go if he wants to. There are so many good coaches out there who are unemployed.
James Zulu on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 4:09 PM
I think there is nothing wrong with him wanting to coach big teams. Look at Jose saying he wants to coach Man united, has his attention to detail faltered on inter milan? i dont think so!…all he is doing showing ambition. more over as a professional (of which i think HR is), you still do your work to the satisfaction of your employer even if they know you are looking for greener pastures. So for me, HR do what pleases you. If you stay, bravo, if you go, go well.
Bonaventure on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 4:16 PM
It will surely be good if he stays because he already has the tools to work with. All he needs is to improve on technical and tactical discipline(so they say in football language). And when he sets goes he will surely aim higher than the last 8. N’est-ce pas M. Hervé Renard monsieur?
There was no way RH could be pushed around because after Kalu he was the second coach in Zambia to be given all the powers to select a team and have the final say. All the talk about RH selecting a ‘Kalu team’ because Kalu is his boss are mere speculations. That is how a coach is supposed to work. Look at what Keshi was saying about interference from the association. At least FAZ is transparent on this account.
Steven on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 4:36 PM
HR, please continue your ambitious ways! The honest truth is in Zambia we are not used to people being honest with us, its always “ati taba kwata umuchinshi”, which is rubbish! HR coached Zambia to within a penalty shoot out of the AFCON Semis, and we act like he hasn’t done anything. We need this kind of refreshing opinion pa Zed. In fact someone should tell FAZ that the jersey contract with Nike is useless, because our jerseys looked cheap. Thats honesty!
Kibakimani on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 5:47 PM
I m dissappointed with most bloggers on this site. HR is not a realist, HR is an opportunist, lacking loyalty. Porterfield was much more successful with Zambia than this french guy, and I guess he had real offers, not fictitious ones, but he never came back for a show down with anybody. Alot of pipo used to condem IP but he was not arrogant. He gracefully left. If this guy wants to leave, let him go and rep where he never sowed, how does coach a team at the world cup when he fatake his team there!!
The world cup is not a preserve for what he calls ‘big teams’. Angola, Senegal and indeed Togo have been there, with the help of coaches who saw possibilities and not those who ask us to celebrate failure. I m sure all students of management will agree that the job of a manager is to tell his charges that they are the best there is, but is this what Renard has been doing to his team? In my opinion, we dont need him. He is destroying the team by making them feel inferior. JUST LET HIM GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, but thats my opinion.
DaMwiinger on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 5:58 PM
@Steven
Mudala, regarding the Nike deal, I have writen a paper which I hoped Zamfoot would publish in which I raise this and alot of other things which I believe are progressive. Unfortunately, it hasn’t been published yet, not sure why
Chali cool on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 6:14 PM
Great thinking Renard. If you decide to leave, you leave with my blessings. You are honest with us and how I hope Zambian coaches were like you.
Steven on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 6:24 PM
@DaMwiinger
I hear you mudala. You must have said some true things in your paper, thats probably why. We run around like we are a great footballing nation, when we fail to match the accomplishments of our past heroes. Surely, how can we fail to host a major tournament, or even fail to go to the World Cup, before Angola? I don’t know what we’ll do when Zimbabwe hosts the Africa Cup before us, or Malawi go to the next World Cup. We really need to be serious!
Seen from afar on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 6:36 PM
@Kibakimani
Thanks for the input!
Kalu and RB should not feel any obligation to keep HR. He’s back now and it’s all me, me, me, grudges still going strong. There is already to much bad blood in the air, it’s hard to see how this can ever work out. Let whoever wants him buy his contract from FAZ. We’ll use the money to scout for another coach. The players themselves are the ones who will be the continuity, we have plenty of time, we have to find someone who is willing to invest the time in Zambia an take on the goal. HR preached time, but when it came down to it he didn’t have any. Sorry HR, but you are proving more trouble than you are worth!
Lovely Nalishiwa on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 7:20 PM
Am horrified at the way Zambians think. Just 60 days ago, this is the man we gave all kinds of names and unprintable insults, today, we have all the praises bestowed on this Renard. Some of us who stood praising him were too called names. This Zambia, kaya!!!!. Mr HR, i wish well in all ambitions
Any Zambia coach who feel he can do beyond HR will be in for a shock. Our league standard is too low and HR has proved that its possible to exccell even with average players. Mikel, Yakubu and Yobo equalled the entire Zambian squad. Etoe alone equalled our team.
The media is let down too.
Bbola ni coach!!!!!
nizi on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 7:54 PM
The truth is, this guy wants to go the world cup,,,but it seems he’s not getting a concret offers thats Why…We should just part ways, he has no respect for zambians, remember his accusations about the commintment of zambian players and fans?, you can’t say things like that anywhere in the world to the media, even if they are true
meanwhile zambia has move 11 places up on the fifa rankings to 73 on the world stage
Man ceasor on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 7:59 PM
Whch zed coach cn lead us 2glory? there interest is askin moni fro players.cant even stand on their own.
Mabbwana on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 9:06 PM
Changing coaches like we do is never the best way out in soccer. This said, I still don’t believe HR is as genuine as he wants us to believe. I think he really thought he had clinched his big money move to a WC bound team this is why he spoke like that when in Angola, I mean with little regard for his employers.
Now that the deal seems blique he is back trying to sweet talk us and people fall for it. Its not wrong for him to express ambition for a big job, but to just carelessly talk about it as if he is not under any contract is not right. I always refer to the response Shehata gave when approached for the Nigeria job, very mature.
I wouldnt mind if he stayed, but I wont go out there leaking his boots because I think he has very little respect for us. Am sure if he feels he has glittered enough again akaponta futi.
Jeff katawa on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 9:07 PM
I think this HR shud jst go. & hw come he thinks he gets all the credit 4a sumthing thats already bin done.sum of us remeber 1996 like it was yesterday.& by the way we went to the semi at the time. Indeed its bin a while bt luk at wat was put in 2 achieve that result,i think he had unprecidented support frm Govt & the pvt sector & a big up to all those involved. & hw abt the players knwing that the world is watching,dont u think thats motivation enuf to want to play as well as they did. Yes tactic r poor bt there is more to results than a coach. If he want 2go let him go!
ife ndife ba zambia on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 9:16 PM
j.mulenga is in action, although his club is down by a goal to nil. 16 min gone
kk11 on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 9:25 PM
CHIPOLOPOLO TRAINER EXPOSES “CHEATING” JOURNALIST – Wednesday, February 03, 2010
Chipolopolo head trainer, Herve Renard revealed how a named journalist from a named newspaper confessed that he concocted an article in which he quoted him as source of the article.
The Zambia head coach revealed to shocked sports reporters that the journalist apologised and confessed that he decided to invent the story because such was the demand from his superior.
“I forgave him but warned that that if ever he repeated the act, I would not tolerate it. But today, the same journalist has attacked my goalkeeper as if my keeper was the worst in the world. He has attacked my captain and myself. But he forgets that they can criticise me and I don’t care because I don’t read what he writes. I don’t have a problem with his newspaper or his organisation, I have a problem with him unless writing lies and stories which are not true is what they do,” Renard said.
The named journalist was not in attendance in the press briefing.
Zamfoot on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 9:38 PM
Isaac Chansa and Felix Katongo failed to make even the bench for Orlando Pirates and Sundowns’ match against Bloem Celtic and Supersport United respectively. Davies Nkausu also no where to be seen on the United bench.
Mabbwana on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 10:39 PM
Any news as to why this is so…
Steve, I hop you give us some touchline data.
Jojo on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 10:47 PM
Clifford played the last 45 min for his team..
kk11 on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 10:57 PM
Zamfoot, can we get the entire transcript of the press conference today. Just want to know why everything(information) is coming in slowly……..
Would like to know the gist of the entire conversation
zed fan on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 11:49 PM
Felix Katongo is still in Zambia!!!
Bolla Pansi on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 12:01 AM
Some bloggers are losers.This zed team, has never been to de qrt finals.HR put this together.Why is it that some zambians are jealous?we ve all been here since 96.why did it have to be HR and Kalu who dont even live in that pathetic place we call our country succeed?all we do is fight amongst ourselves and against progressive pipo like Great Kalu.shame on us!
desire on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 1:08 AM
ife ndife bazambia is jacob in the line up and whats the link?
Jojo on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 1:25 AM
Jacob played the entire game though his team lost 2-1 to PSV.
Jojo on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 1:39 AM
It seems great kalu and herve renard have a good working relationship
Kachisa on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 8:24 AM
The man he has cleared the air, now wat we need to as a country is to see to it that we plan for the future as anything is possible……Renard might choose to stay or go to coach a team @ the world cup with nothing to lose apart from may be a dent on his career….Such happens in football as coaches come and go….we hope for the best….
Asilikale on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 8:27 AM
Lol a gudway to apease ppl u av insulted and called different names ,this guy has found a way to impress zambian football nation.
Lol i like his charisma,otherwise hes talkng swt coz the two big countries interviewed hm indirectly n discovered he was a luck bird with gud players,its not what he can that makes it bt what he has…….hez a bad coach lol.
bob munyati on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 8:36 AM
While we continue to think about HR, we must also think about the players in the Zambian team, think about improving the local league and increase the fan base and do away with insensitive critics that we have as a country.
Fifa on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 8:56 AM
For the sake of continuity and growth in the Zambian game,our country deserves a dedicated coach and not an opportunist like HR.There is conflict of interest between HR and the zambian football family.1 We want to win AFCON 2012 while HR wants to coach a big team 2.we Zambians want transform their team into a power house, HR is looking for a job else where.We want to go the 2014 world cup ,Hr is telling us we are a small team.Let him leave ,let him trek to lagos.His time is up .
chamz on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 9:02 AM
Just admit, HR has made u swallow your words.
Sande on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 9:09 AM
I like this Bob. Great. Let us talk about our sports infrastructure. For example, I used to watch soccer at Musa Kasonka in Ndola. I no longer go there because of ifipuna takwaba. Kwafulafye insele shekasheka ukutuka ba ref nabakateya bamupila. First I stopped going with my son because my son heard unprintable insults in my presence against the ref. Please Govt build the stadia quickly, we will start watching football in Ndola.
FAZ should also do something with local refering starndards. We have good refs but raise the standards. Zed has great potential in football but there is no investiment and players attitudes must also be worked on. HR and football commentators in Angola kept on talking about mental strength. I now value mental strength. Actually mental strength must be instilled at child hood level. That is the winning mentality which Egypt, Man U, Barca has.
Big Steve from SA on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 9:21 AM
Eish sometimes its hard to understad a coaches thinking. Just two weeks ago at a mini tournament Gavin Hunt was singing all sorts of praise songs for Nkausu, metioning how improved he is and was very impressed by the layers dedication then game time comes and he doesn’t even cal him to the bench. Same with Pirates Rudi krol also had praise for Isaac and then he doesn’t even call him to the bench. I hope Isaac doesn’t end up in a situation like Felix. Felix was more or less brought to Sundowns by Patrice Motsepe with a word in from Kalu. All this hapened without the coach’s involvement now the coach simply does not play him and he justifies this with the fact that the team is doing very well and he has even won coach of the month. Isaac it seems has also rejoined not via the coach but via the club owner Iron Duke (Irvin Khoza). I hope Rudi krol does not hold this aganist the player and simply plays him on merit.
gb on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 9:25 AM
zambia has moved from 84 to 73 on the Fifa world rankings and it is on number 14 in Africa yet teams like Togo, Mali Benin are higher up on the rankings than zambia, bullshit!
mphatso on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 9:30 AM
Emmanuel Mbola name in the BBC 2010 Nations Cup starting XI and Zambia, Ghana and Egypt named as the most entertaining teams at AFCON.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/piersedwards/2010/02/egypt_worthy_winners_of_disapp.html
Ng'ambi Goodwells on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 9:34 AM
Zamfoot thanks for your contributon to our football development even through comments from the bublic.
Sorry this time I read a comment from someone who seems to have been a childhood friend at MABEL SHAW HIGH SCHOOL. (WINZA SICHALI)
Winza, mwana this is my contact [email protected]
I woul be happy to have your contacts.
gb on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 9:52 AM
It seems Gambia (18), Malawi (17) and Zambia (11)were the biggest movers in africa. What is surprising is that Gambia moved 18 places up, yet it never participated in the Afcon, for Malawi it is understood because it beat a world cup bound team. How come Nigeria is second?
mphatso on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 9:54 AM
FIFA rankings are wack, even England complained at some point..lol
Zamfoot on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 10:06 AM
Check out the updated article. Start reading from the were there’s a picture of Kalu and Renard.
We hope this clears about Renard’s future? What should FAZ do? Extend his contract or not?
Sibs on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 10:20 AM
I think Felix is frustrated with his situation at Sundowns. I don’t think he will make the team with just 5 games remaining before the close of the season. I’m sure he is looking at other options.
I hope he does not end up in Egypt like Kalaba. Looking at what happened to Fwayo in Tunisia i wouldn’t advice any of our players going to the North. Ma guys mitima nizoipa!
I also read that Mbesuma only arrived at his club on Monday(1/02/10) though Zambia was knokced in the Quarters the other Monday. His Coach is reported not to have been happy with Ntofontofo’s behaviour considering they had a big game last night. He will face the club’s Managemnet to explain where he was.
Sibs on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 10:33 AM
I don’t think i will come to understand these Fifa Rankings. Teams like Morocco who have not been active are still ranked higher than us. Burkina Faso, Togo and Mali even Gabon surely can’t be higher than us ?
chamz on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 10:54 AM
I wonder why Kalaba is being pushed around, why can’t be a demand a transfer? Or is it the Carlos (Man City) case where is rights are owned by an indivudual agent?
chamz on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 11:09 AM
Many of these guys, have been anti HR since he was appointed. Don’t expect them to say anything positive. I have not noticed that they are not saying anything about Sinkala,their favorite? Afcon showed that HR is a good coach, if I were FAZ, I would keep him. I have also noticed that a lot of people do not know soccer like the claim.
Big Steve from SA on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 11:19 AM
I honestly believe mbesuma must have been tryng his luck out in Angola. I guess for some discipline is not present in their vocab. I am also dissapointed with Kalabas north african move, he is too good a player not to crack it in Europe. His size works aganist him I guess but I believe after afcon and with a good agency like pro sport he should have at least got into the french league. I am a little caoncerned with this thing of fathers and brothers being managers. Even Anelkas career almost took a nose dive because f this family management thing. Kalaba should signn up with a good management team.
Man ceasor on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 12:10 PM
zamfoot y r u givin us da story in parts?dis is borin or u dont ve new stories 2giv us?
Smm-SoJC on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 12:11 PM
WHAT IS OUR POSITION ON THE AFRICAN LOG???? BLESSED REPUBLIC OF ZAMBIA … SHALOM
mphatso on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 12:25 PM
If u knew that being at the world cup is that important, Mr Renard, why didnt u work had to qualify your team? Why do u want to reap where u didnt sow???
chamz on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 12:39 PM
Say something postive for once, you are always bitter.
James Zulu on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 12:49 PM
aaaaah! walasa
Smm-SoJC on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 12:51 PM
Blessed land of Zambia … GOD bless the Republic
mphatso on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 12:59 PM
@Chamz…to be honest with you my bro or sister..I dont see what the whole fuss is all about! Zambia’s qualification to the last 8 is not an achievement..u hear that? With a serious coach this team wud have been in the final, okay? we played 4 games at Afcon..won 1, lost 2 and drew 1..u call that an achievement?? we made it to the quarterfinals becoz of the flawed CAF qualification system that everybody condemned at this AFCON. Lets wake up Zambians and stop settling for less..lets learn to aim higher. Thats why everything in zed is sub standard becoz of this mediocre attitude that we have of oways accepting failure. We have never won afcon not because we cant but becoz unlike other teams we dont go there to win it, but simply to participate and mayb go to the next round, and once we do that we are happy!!!!…for all i can HR hasnt achieved anything with us. I am sorry, thats my opinion…i have nothing against him!
Fifa on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 1:00 PM
I find Renard very strange,he too had the opportunity to qualify to the world cup but he didnt meet the requirements nor did he come closer to meeting the requirements of being a world cup coach.He shouldn’t be in a hurry,he is privileged that the country of talent wants him to continue as coach despite having one of the Zambia s worst record in the qualifiers.Let him concentrate coz Zambia will play the 2014 world cup in Brazil with or without Renard.Renard Relax you have not achieved anything as coach yet.Learn from Zambia and from Kalu.
Jojo on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 1:01 PM
PIRATES COACH KROL ON CHANSA
Krol reckons his side will be a lot sharper when they meet BidVest Wits on saturday
He is expected to give new midfield signing,zambian star and former buccaneer isaac chansa,his debut,
I have been impressed by chansa at training,he featured in the recent Africa cup of nations for zambia and unlike my bafana players,he looks sharp..
MOROKA SWALLOWS COACH ZOBEL ON MBESUMA
Swallows,who will play celtic at the seisa Ramabodu stadium,are still searching for their missing zambian striker collins mbesuma,who went AWOL after zambia reached the quaterfinals of the africa nations cup in angola last monday
Zobel dismissed the truant striker: “i have three other strikers.who knows where mbesuma got to,maybe egypt,i really dont care.i do not run after players..
This is on the supersport website.
Justice Kafusha on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 1:02 PM
If FAZ would like to extend the contract of HR, well let them do it now i.e. if HR is willing as well. They should not wait until May. They should ask HR to make a decision say by the end of February so that incase he does not wish to renew then FAZ can start the search for a new coach and that should in place before May
Although I am not a fan of HR, if he stays I will support him and all the other hand criticize him if he starts making costly blunders
As things stand the decision as to whether to extend the contract is in HR’s hands as FAZ have already indicated they are willing to extend his contract. With HR indicating that money is not important then I am sure FAZ can extend his contract on the same conditions as the present
Another issue FAZ should sort out is this issue letting everyone in FAZ act as spokesmen. Manuile has to sit down with HR and sort out their differences
Finally I should that I am very disappointed with the decision made by Kalaba and Sunzu to be loaned to Zamalek and sign for TP Mazembe respectively. Kalu had correctly advised players to refrain from rushing into signing contracts with cheap foreign clubs. Anyway it is their choice
desire on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 1:33 PM
Mphatso, i couldnt agree with u more,i dont know why peple were excited about second round,this time the group was very tight thats why we managed with 4 points i’m not saying that zambia didn’t play well they played very well as always but talk about an achievement talk about final or at least semis although iwish hr would stay i give him credit for discoverin some zambian talent example being mbola, sunzu etc coz if we had a local coach these players would have been no where near the national team.
Sande on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 1:40 PM
Yaaa! I remember what the Ghanaian FA president said at the time FAZ wanted hiom for the Job in Zambia. He said, HR needs Zambia most that Zambia needs him. This is what is happening. However, HR requires to move to become better but his CV is not attractive.
franz on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 1:50 PM
HR has applied for the Tanzanian Job according to the Tanzanian FA.Source:goal.com
Kibakimani on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 1:53 PM
I really find your reasoning strange. Firstly, I dont know whether you understand the meaning of loyalt. HR while in Angola started speaking as though Zambia didnt exist. He created a picture that the little success Zambia had achieved was all because of him. I will be supprised if you agree with him. In case you dont rememebr, Zambia prepared for all its qualifiers in first class facilities in either South Africa or Europe, was he responsible for that? Which other coach since 1996 has been given so much support?
If Patrick Phiri, Banfuchile or even Kalu had been given this support, they probably would have bettered HR’s perfomance. By the way, in case you are not a real follower of Zambian football, Zambia,s perfomance in this year’s edition is no better that that of 1998 when Zambia beat Mozambaique, drew with a very good Morrocco, and lost to the eventual Champions Egypt. In 2006, again zambia beat southAfrica, drew with senegal and lost to Tunisia, In 2008, Zambia convicingly an ambitious Sudan, lost to cameroun and drew with a very, very good Egypt. So if you look at these results, Zambia this time qualified to the quarte finals only because of other permutations, not because Zambia was exeptional.
Good lucky Mozzp and your coach HR coz what is keeping him is only because other teams have evaluated him and they dont see him as being special. Imagine HR was coach for either Egypt or Ghana!!!!!
Fumpa on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 1:56 PM
Fumpa on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 1:58 PM
Renard set very low standards for mother Zambia. Look Cameroun had a tired and worn out team just experience we failed to beat. Tunisia was no where closer to zambia. we failed to beat. I think Renard is excited for getting GCE certificate insyead of 6points school certificate. Shehata is worth the salt! Even Amodu shuabi can boast because he qualified to WC.
HR go marry your own lady feed her, dress her up nicely and take her out. You can not go out with a lady who is dressed and fed by other people and boast. Leave the WC teams alone. Work hard and qualify your own other “smaller” teams like Tanzania (Zanzibar), somali, Eritrea, Mauritania etc.
Your standards are low and crocked! We have been to QF and SF already in the past. ASnd we have been to F already. Set your standards to LIFT THE TROPHY.
Justice Kafusha on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 2:00 PM
You know what desire, even the setting of a target to reach the 1/4 finals was wrong. Any ambitious person will set his target higher. If you get your targets lower it becomes difficult to achieve anything. You start school in grade 1 today and you set you target as reaching grade 5 and when you reach grade 5 then you celebrate and say you do not care if you do not reach grade 6 and 7 as you have reached your target
Justice Kafusha on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 2:01 PM
set your
ROK on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 2:06 PM
Justice i have been following your positive and constructive contributions and i must say i have liked your contributions. It would appear the ‘scouts’ took advantage of the tight remaining period for the January 2010 transfer window. The players who were approached could not wait for the July 2010 transfer window and hence the rush to sign contracts. It is unfortunate that our skilled Rainford is now being used to generate small (US$50,000′S)amounts of money for Braga by persistently loaning him from one club to another. He is definitely worth much more than that. We are in an awkward position because, as a country, we do not have a single qualified FIFA Players’ Agent (I tried the exam last year but missed the pass mark by one (1) mark and hope to resit in September this year. Right now, most of our players are being linked up to qualified scouts by one young man at UNZA who has done a tremendous job but our players are worth much more. My recollection is that Kalaba was sold to Braga at US$100,000 which was about K500,000,000 then but now loaned to Zamalek at half this price when the player is better now. FAZ should come up with a committee to take care of the interests of players to make sure they are not exploited.@Justice Kafusha
Fumpa on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 2:07 PM
Zambia Head Coach Herve Renard Eyes Tanzania Job – Report
Herve Renard impressed in the African Nations Cup in Angola by reaching the quarter-finals, but he is now seeking greener pastures.
Zambia head coach Herve Renard has expressed interest in replacing Tanzania’s Taifa Stars coach Marcio Maximo, whose contract expires in July.
In a report posted in the Daily News the Tanzania Football Federation general secretary, Fredrick Mwakalebela, confirmed yesterday that Renard was among a number of high profile coaches who sent their applications.
“Though we have not announced the criteria for national team coach, applications are already flowing in,” he said.
He added that they will declare the post vacant and announce qualifications for Maximo’s successor after the federation’s general meeting later this month.
Mwakalebela also disclosed that the executive committee will meet tomorrow to discuss several issues that will be presented in their general meeting, which is scheduled to take place in two weeks with the main agenda being the fate of national team coach Maximo
goal.com
Spaks on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 2:19 PM
Chamz my brother, i have nothing against HR but i wont lie to myself that he is a good coach as for Mphatso, scouting and coaching are two differnet things thats why you will never see wenger or any other great coaches going round looking for players i appreciate his ability to see talent in people and respect him for being his own man, i wont be blind to the fact that he is tactical abilities need to be improved like i always say some of you are all about talk no action so what you say matters less to me, action noti ukubwata fye
Spaks on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 2:25 PM
Mphatso, sorry i meant to say mozzyp , accept my apology
mphatso on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 2:31 PM
Winza Sichali on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 2:31 PM
Zambia head coach Herve Renard has expressed interest in replacing Tanzania’s Taifa Stars coach Marcio Maximo, whose contract expires in July.
In a report posted in the Daily News the Tanzania Football Federation general secretary, Fredrick Mwakalebela, confirmed yesterday that Renard was among a number of high profile coaches who sent their applications.
“Though we have not announced the criteria for national team coach, applications are already flowing in,” he said.
He added that they will declare the post vacant and announce qualifications for Maximo’s successor after the federation’s general meeting later this month
BuzzEd on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 2:37 PM
Totally agree with you on this one Mr Kafusha. FAZ should push this guy against the wall and ask him to sign a new contract with a deadline ASAP. If he does not sign by the deadline, FAZ can start looking for another coach.
HR is a good coach, young, energetic and ambitious. Just the right package Zambia needed in a coach. Problem is his ambition to coach a “big team,” clouds his judgement about what he can achieve with Zambia. He does not rate Zambia in the same category as his so called “big teams.” Why would FAZ want to keep a coach with such low expectations? He see’s his pontential for success with another team and not with Zambia. This defies any logic as to why FAZ should keep him as head coach. Are they (FAZ) settling for second best? By the way, who employed who?
Clearly, you can see that HR is now playing mind games with FAZ. He doesn’t care whether he is offered a contract with Zambia or not because as soon as soon as the “right” team comes calling, he will be out of the door faster than he came. Now, that is more like a creating a catch 22. situation. If he doesn’t get the job he wants, he stays with Zambia and if he does he leaves. Well, I think FAZ and Zambian football is greater than any one coach or player! Anybody who has divided loyalty is not fit to coach or play for Zambia. The priority for FAZ should be not to look after HR’s interest but that of Zambian football. Let him not dictate the terms of service or the conditions to which he will sign a new contract. This is not club football we are dealing with here. FAZ should really figure out where his mind is otherwise, stop wasting time and get rid of him! Let George Lwandamina and Patrice Bemuela (however you spell his name) take over. Perhaps come 2012, they can show HR that Zambia was not such a small team after all. Let HR do what he thinks is right for his future and FAZ should do the same for Zambian football. There is plenty of time between now and 2012 to get somebody and hit the ground running.
mphatso on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 2:38 PM
@Spaks..Noted!!!
Justice Kafusha on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 2:39 PM
Thanks brother and I wish you the best in the FIFA exams. It will be great to have someone as a FIFA agent in our country. I totally agree with you statement that FAZ should step in, because if things continue as at now, Zambian football has no future. It is really sad that some of our players have no advisors while others have parents who like money. Of course we all like money but sometimes one needs to careful and avoid making decisions based on the “garbage can method”
Cheers brother, stay well and God bless you
ife ndife ba zambia on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 3:28 PM
@franz
Zambia this time qualified to the quarte finals only because of other permutations, not because Zambia was exeptional
which permutations? iyo ni PHD.IN 2006 ZAMBIA LOST 2 GAMES (AGAINST GUINEA C 2-1 AND TUNISIA 4-1).WE ONLY BEAT S.A 1.
IS THAT WAT U SAY GUD?BE REALISTIC.
WHICH ZED COACH DO YOU THINK WILL TAKE ZED SOCCER HIGHER?
99% OF OUR COACHES DONT HAVE EDUCATION.THEY ARE JUST USING THE KNOWLEDGE THEY VE BCOZTHEY PLAYED FUTBO AT TIME.BUT MODERN FUTBO HAS CHANGED BEYOND RECOGNITION.U NEED A COACH WITH THEORY AND PRACTICAL.NO ZED COACH VE BEEN IN CLASSTO STUDY FUTBO, THEY JUST ATTEND MA SEMINARIES WHICH DO MORE HARM TO THEM THAN GOOD.
STOP DREAMING COME TO REALITIES.
ZAMBIA HAS GOT NO LONG PLANS FOR EVERYTHING.EVEN IF YOU GIVE ZED COACHES SCHOLARSHIPS (WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE), AS SOON AS THEY GET QUALIFICATIONS, THEY LL NOT STAY IN ZED BCOZ 1.THEY LL RECIEVE GOOD OFFERS FRO OTHER COUNTRIES 2.THEY LL B QUALIFIED 3.WE DONT APPRICIATE OURSELVES 4. THEY UNDERSTAND OUR LANGUAGES, THEREFORE LL UNDERSTAND WEN U TUKANA THEM MU STADIUM.
HW MANY DOCTORS DO ZED TRAIN AND LEAVE THE COUNTRY?WE DONT HAV PLANS FULL STOP.
Fumpa on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 3:29 PM
Ba Jack mukapase nomba bakamba. I want you to be involved in scouting players.
chamz on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 3:36 PM
I don’t agree with this speculation, Tanzania people are just speculating!! The biggest problem we have in Zambia is consitency. The problem is not HR, Kalu but collectively as Zambians we don’t plan ahead. If a team reached quarter finals, does that not mean progress after 14 years? I don’t say we settle for less, of course our aim should be to win the cup and go to WC. So our next target must be finals in Gabon and WC in Brazil, that is if we keep HR. Letting him go means a new coach with new ideas. The coach is likley to be local, after Gabon, that coach will be fired and then a foreign coach will be found and what will he say? I need time to build this time and Zambia will miss Brazil. As things stand now, HR will will no execuses of saying he needs time, he is building a team etc etc.
ife ndife ba zambia on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 3:37 PM
@ROK
ITS NOT $50 000 BUT $ 450 000
chamz on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 3:39 PM
It has nothing to do with FAZ. Our players are not just smart. Jacob worked hard in France and is now in Holland. Felix has problems even in SA, what is it?
franz on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 3:56 PM
what are you talking about?I did not put any permutations.Please read the posts attentively before making unnecessary accusations.@ife ndife ba zambia
Zamfoot on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 4:03 PM
it is $50, 000 loan. The other figure was meant to be for an outright purchase.
franz on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 4:04 PM
Kalaba was loaned to Zamalek for Euro 450 000($800 000) sporting braga…..
Seen from afar on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 4:21 PM
Thanks for the update Ba Zamfoot
It’s pretty much confirmed (as if we needed any more) he will not be our coach!!! FAZ should not seriously consider extending his contract just pretend like they would like too.. This guy isn’t half in kuku land.
“I think in your job, all of you are dreaming of going to the World Cup and make reports or watch a game. That means, it’s my dream in my life to be a coach of a World Cup team. I am sorry if some people are not happy with me but I am fair with you. My dream one day is to be coach of World Cup (bound) team.”
He doesn’t have a clue.
Let’s stop toying with this toy coach, kick his self-centered ass out. Let’s get on with reality and back to our own task. HR has qualities but we can’t save him from himself, maybe one day he’ll wake up, but that will too late. All of us should not cry over spilt milk.
Asilikale on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 6:22 PM
i wish Renard the best bt to show maturit this time,zambia stil nid sinkala whatva is btwn them they shud solve it once and for all,bt i realy wantd Renard to go and i stil want to bt since Faz need him its high time he listened to zambians out cry.
kk11 on Thu, 4th Feb 2010 8:32 PM
@Asilikale
what world do u live in?
Sande on Fri, 5th Feb 2010 11:44 AM
Part 2 of Herve Renard’s media briefing will published in the next 24 hours. He talks about the tournament in Angola, players and his tactics
Where is this Ba Muzo. It is now 72Hrs
CHISA on Sat, 6th Feb 2010 1:05 PM
Looking at the amount of sponsorship plus the all the support the team received including Renard allowances. With such kind of support even a local coach was going to deliver even more.So if he wants to go let him go.
I would love to thank all those who took part in the sponsoring of our team please continue for minus you i don,t think we would even reach that far.