Chipolopolo to camp in North Africa
By Ba Muzo
The Zambia National Soccer Team is set to camp in an unnamed North African country ahead of the decisive World Cup/Africa Cup 2010 match against the Desert Foxes of Algeria in Blida on September 5.
Local media have quoted Football Association of Zambia (FAZ) Vice President and Spokesperson Emmanuel Munaile as saying.
The Malole Independent member of the Zambian parliament has said it would not make sense for Zambia to camp in South Africa when they will be playing in North Africa.
”There is no way we can camp the team in South Africa when the assignment is in North Africa,” the former Chipolopolo midfielder is quoted as saying in today’s edition of the Zambia Daily Mail.
The Chipolopolo had previously camped in South Africa before the 1-1 draw away to Egypt and twice recently for the home matches against Rwanda (1-0) and the 2-0 defeat to Algeria at the weekend.
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The crap has hit the fan…. BTW ,what we have as a coach is a physical trainer, and what we have as a physical trainer is a FUTSAL expert. Two upstarts apparently. Lets say if zambia fails to make it to angola ,the same who call HR” Super Fox” will raise the issue of his qualification, sounds familliar?And then about the “world cup dream”… This is the time to face reality and accept it, we cannot make it to SA. It hurts a lot less when you dont expect much
FMB, since when did a Zambian team drew in Egpyt? But we did last time 1-1. Why should you give up. Algeria have 7-points, we have 4, when we win in Algeria, we will 7. Assuming Egpty beats Rwanda, they will have 4 points. What makes you think Algeria will win in Cairo? Or that they will beat Rwanda. Yes, they won, they in the driving seat but have not qualified yet. Common man you never had social studies? France has a big Algerian population (millions almost Zambia’s population. Does Zambia have a big population in UK? This group is still open, they beat us in Zambia, why can’t we beat them away? Stop this inferiority complex.
i just hope the Amavubi can beat Egypt at Amahoro stadium so that both our teams have tickets to Angola
Go Rwanda, you know that your team has also fast tracked West Africans to become Rwandase so that you can become a strong team. I am not against Rwanda or Algeria using whoever has their passports to play for their teams. I am teasing the Algerians who are so excited that they think they have qualified with three games to go and are only ahead by 3 points. Rwanda can win the remaining 4 games and qualify, Egpyt can also win all the games and quailify, so can Zambia.
Zambia beat Egypt 5-3 in a tournamnet played their. Do your research Mr.
And when Algeria have 7 points and we have 4, in your mind we are better, walifwa umutwe or what? Blind supporter. We were wire at home and you think we will beat them, you really cray mune
wired
Some of the comments here border on insanity. It’s difficult for you to suggest players that you dont watch. Chris Katongo may be struggling because his team struggled. The boys one day will do better. Keep it Zed. Viva objectivity! Viva positivity! Viva Chipolopolo. Aluta Continua. Nangu tuwine, nangu tuluse, tuli bana ba ZAMBIA!
To frank Zambia will not even make it to AFCON in Angola
Chamz, you are using sarcastic language. There is no point in debating you. One last thing, even Guardiola the Barca coach wouldn’t have your over-confidence (I mean cheap talk). bye.
Ya mu yaya umu yaya lyonse kulu sa, kabili twa libelala
Ichibi
Algeria is better
After, the saturday game, I though all was lost but with a sober mind, the battle is not over. Remember that day in Cape Town? I was sleeping, when my friend in Zambia text me saying Zambia was 3-0 up, yes the same Chris Katongo, you are againt now.
Thanks for the info, Karim. We know about the French team and Zidane, the best thing ever with Algerian blood. I like that guy, Zidane. So answer my question. How many players in your current team were born in Algeria?
Zambia and Egpyt are the only geniune 100% local blood teams in our group. The other two teams are Diaspora teams, good for them. We are just too harsh for our boys (home grown talent).
The best thing ever with Algerian blood were those fallen martyrs who freed Algeria and Africa from French colonization. But, a mind like yours would not understand.
FMB,you are now under cover? The martyrs you are taking about fought in Algeria, I don’t remember them in Cameroun, Ivory Coast or DRC or any other Franco phone African country.
FBM Please leave Chamz alone, he is more logical than you and your brother Charim. Algeria is just an average team, Rwanda was even stronger than Algeria. Our loss by two goals was against the flow of the game, any fool who watched the game acknowldged that Zambia played far much better than your team. victories over Zambia and Egypyt can not be the sole basis of grading a team. We have 3/4 chances of beating Algeria in the return leg while you have Zero chance of winning in Cairo and you will be lucky to draw with Rwanda when they come to Algeria.
I am not FMB. I can tell he is a much more honorable man than you can ever be. You are just a pathetic human being.
FBM a question to you, how did the USA make it to semi-finals in the confed cup? It does not matter whether they were lucky or they just fought till the last breath, it just shows that anything is possible in football. Lets wait and see, but if we lose in Algeria then we should just forget about it.
You ain’t got no chance to beat Algeria. None whatsoever. Zip. Nil. Zero. You will even be clobbered by Rwanda. And you are not good enough to beat Egypt.
Chamz,
Your observation about Togo and Angola is right. But where is Angola and Togo now. Its because they are not great teams. Our team is not great. Its just an average team. Qualifying to World Cup would be more of an accident that something out of greatness. This is the point.
The game against Rwanda should have rang bells in many fans that not all was well in the team, but as usual we burried our heads in sand and consoled ourselves with the three points. The Algeria game was the final nail on the coffin that our team lacks character and consistency, all because we dont have excpetional players, and we continue to cheat ourselves that we can win away to qualify.
FBM and Squad cannot handle a loss, before we played against Algeria FBM didn’t you think it was possible for them to win? You must be one of those fans who were predicting a blow out to Algeria. I did not predict the outcome of the match because I understand that teams like Senegal once beat France at the world cup. Anything is possible in this sport, you should be able to swallow this pill. Otherwise you are not strong enough to be a die hard fan.
Anonymous you are just plain ignorant to say that we have no chance of beating Algeria, in Algiers. The fact that Algeria beat us in Chilis proves any team is beatable. Egypt beat Italy by 1 goal, and Italy was clearly the better team. But then again if you look at the results in that group, you will agree that those results were unpredictable. Who knew that the USA would clobber Egypt by 3 goals? I’m not predicting anything for now, Am just confident that we have a good chance of beating Algeria at their home ground. We have nothing to lose, but everything to die for.
Karim, thanks for the info, 7 players born in France. I agree there are millions of Algerians in France. Karim, I guess if we had millions of Zambians in UK, I guess, we would do the same. My point to the fellow Zambians was that we are too harsh for our young team when they lose to players born in France and play in better teams. The other point is that we are not as bad as people like FMB make us to be. Karim do you think you will win in Cairo? What is the history like Algeria and Egpyt?
@Gametime12
Gametime12 : please re-read the context of that reply. I was replying in consequence to someone who said foolishly that there is 3/4 chances for Zambia to beat Algeria in Algiers while Algeria had zero chance of beating Egypt in Cairo. So, why should the possibility of an upset hold for Zambia and not for Algeria. Do you see what I see ?
Head-to-head wins (as per Fifa) :
MEN: Algeria 7 – Egypt 5
WOMEN: Algeria 2 – Egypt 1
I can also give head-to-head wins between Algeria and Zambia but I guess you already know that
Guys with a sobber mind, this group is open. Yes advantage Algeria but like Game 12 says, what makes us think Algeria will win all the remaining games? Football has peaks and slumps, who knows we can peak in Blid and Kagali. At this point they boys have nothing to lose really, if we fail 2010, lets make sure we don’t miss Angola.
We can even draw in Algeria, win in Rwanda, And win at home and still make it to the world cup. Algeria will stumble. But we need goals more than ever.
My prediction:
Egypt wins in Rwanda, Cairo and lose in Zambia – 7pts
Algeria draws at home, beat Rwanda , lose in Cairo – 11pts
Zambia draws in Algiers, wins in Rwanda, wins At home – 11pts
Rwanda will cause an upset somewhere and spell doom any of the 3 teams.
If my Prediction stands it will come down to goal difference once again. Its not over gentlemen!!
Guys, dont throw in the towel yet. This is the same team which made us so proud when they drew in Cairo. Now they have hit a big hitch and we calling for all sorts of surgery….
Yes we got to to re- enforce the team were we can but some of you sound so sceptical. As for me I remain optimistic.
I draw this optimism from the fact that our team is a relatively young team. It can only improve. What they got over the weekend is a bitter lesson with some invaluable experience. We are not dealing with a crop of very old players, or players who have been on the scene too long like you would see with the Egyptians. Most of our boys still have room to improve.
I would be surprised if we saw some real cute discipline even in the defence which has let in 3 goals in 3 games during the next game. I wouldnt wwant to discard Nyambe and Dennis yet for that central defensive partnership. They held their own against the mighty Pharoahs who tore apart Brazil and I think looking at the average age of the defence, our boys can only improve by the game.
The Kalabas, Feligoals, Galctico Fwayo, gangling Jacob seem to to have a lot of room to up their game and we can do better than last saturday.
Guys who is FMB? And where is Kayira? That is not to say, I am against their views, they just sound bitter and angry.
Half way, Algeria have had a perfect start. One thing is kicking in my head, why should we only go to Algeria to fulfill a fixture? Why not beat them? Common guys, we can’t be give up now.
Good point Chamz. I feel we will play better away than we did in Chilis, mainly because of the pitch. Thats sad to say, but I think its the reality. We’ve become a team that plays better away from home. I like how Marty USA has played it out. Go Zambia Go!
Nice one Marty.We are all that optimistic.But dont let us think we are that good.There is work to be done.Our wins,if any, have been very slender of late.Our defense is pathetic.I disagree with gametime12 who seems to think Nyambe and dennis are the best central defense we can offer now.We need to work on burying the opportunities we create, and we need to have a defense that will not concede.3 games played,Goals for 2, goals against 3, goal diff -1.Tells you stories.
We can still pull thru tho.All we need is to work at what did not work against Algeria,botrh defensewise and strikewise.
All the best abena Zambia.
As an after thought: Good permutations Marty.But look at this
Algeria have scored 5 goals and conceded 1 (GD +4).Zambia have scored 2 and conceded 3.(GD -1).That means we need 5 goals just to be on level terms with Algeria in terms of goals, and our strike force hasnt looked like one that can score that many goals.That said, i am still optimistic that we will make it, if Renard can see where the problems in the Team are.I have reservations about the Kabamba guy,remember Kamwashi? That could happen with these congolese.We have enough arsenal in Zed without turning to foreigners!
Lets go to Algeria and do what they did here.
Hlexi- the problem is scoring not defence, had we scored first, the game would have a different face. We remember that we have lost at home before-SA-1-0, Senegal and others. Football is a combination of a lot of things, even luck. No one thought USA to qualify for semis. My point is why would Zambia go to Algeria and give them three points, we must fight to win. You guys are forgetting Angola, surely we can’t miss both.
Hlexi:
The problem is that Renard sometimes doesnt seem to know where the problem is.He himself is a ‘rookie’ as you have put it, what do yiou expect?
Hlexi, no that is guarantee, Algeria will win the next three games.
This munaile guy also…unnamed north african country???..unnamed because NO arrangements have been made,, and then last minute…Camping in RSA then play orlando pirates youth…these guys KAYA!
If we have have to make it out of this position..i mean difficult position serious..very serious preparation have to be made.
Chamz – Scoring is a problem, i totally agree.But what of the defense? These boys (Nyambe/Dennis) have played three games.Conceded in two.If you watch them closely, you will see that at times they are at sixes and sevens.Seemingly lost.With good opposition,as was the case with Algeria, they are a disaster.I have no problems with Musonda & Mbola.Central defense and central strike is my main main worry………….
Chola, Renard has brought displine. Players like Tana, who showed up when they wanted have been shown the door. Pompous players like Cliford are out. We have a professional approach. Renard, I think someone on the blog mentioned it when he had a chat with Patrice that Zambian players had an inflority complex, he is working on that. Also, players are fighting for places now. Look at Muzo, he is displaced Mishesk, I am sure pretty soon, Chris, Felix and others will be on the bench.
There are no guarantees in Soccer ba Chamz, if so, then there would be no need to play.We play because we have a chance.And we do have a chance, just like Egypt, Algeria, & Rwanda.What we should do is just do our part, and hope that Algeria falter.
Egpyt- have conceded 4 goals, Rwanda 1 goal both teams are at the bottom, yes with one game in hand. Iraq conceded 1 goal in SA, they are home now. The US conceded six goals scored four and qualified. Our problem is scoring. I feel Timothy Mbewe and Signs Chibambo and Boyd Mwila should be given a chance. Some people are talking about Kola, the boy has not done anything in SA.
@Chamz
@Chola
yes, we have lost at home before but shouldn’t be a habit.USA won that not because they are good team but because they were organised as team..(organised from management to the last man in the team). They picked themselves up from two defeats..just listen to what munaile is saying..eish disorganistation at its best.
chola you are right Renard is a rookis maybe we shouldn’t expect too much from the guy, maybe he can only take us up to angola.
Kola has made a mark in the PSL, to me he’s better than Given
but others are more human than others…mbesuma maybe is less/”small” human…
In last Afcon Zambia had conceded 6 goals in three matches Hlexi, this proves that our defense has improved. And may be you should look up the definition of a counter attack Hlexi.
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Hlexi’s argument does not hold water, I asked him to come up with two central defenders that are better than Nyambe and Denis. His just a critic of the two, its funny how his the only one who thinks they are that bad. The fact that everybody is talking about scoring should suggest that its our main problem. I don’t think they would have scored a second goal if Tembo had made that God given chance. They caught us on the counter right after the miss, like i said before football is a game of chances. If you don’t make your chances then expect them to turn against you. Zambia did everything they had to do, except scoring.
See wikipedia…majority of the Algerian players are born in France. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion because they’re Algerian 100% blood still. If only Zambia could get foreign-born Zambians to play for Zambia.