Chipolopolo to camp in North Africa
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The Zambia National Soccer Team is set to camp in an unnamed North African country ahead of the decisive World Cup/Africa Cup 2010 match against the Desert Foxes of Algeria in Blida on September 5.
Local media have quoted Football Association of Zambia (FAZ) Vice President and Spokesperson Emmanuel Munaile as saying.
The Malole Independent member of the Zambian parliament has said it would not make sense for Zambia to camp in South Africa when they will be playing in North Africa.
”There is no way we can camp the team in South Africa when the assignment is in North Africa,” the former Chipolopolo midfielder is quoted as saying in today’s edition of the Zambia Daily Mail.
The Chipolopolo had previously camped in South Africa before the 1-1 draw away to Egypt and twice recently for the home matches against Rwanda (1-0) and the 2-0 defeat to Algeria at the weekend.
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We will wait and see. I think that we should not be fooled by thinking that where you camp wins you games. It definitely helps to have good preparations but what matters most is 3 points. Fight. The boys played well but there was not fight. Never say die attitude. Die for the cause attitude. That is what wins games. Not location of camp. If it is messy football and we grind out 3 points, I am happy. If it means camping on the moon, so be it. Let us just give it our all when we get on the pitch, thats where games are WON! Still behind you…all the way.
Spoiler Alert, it’s Morocco
This is football anything is possible. Go Z Go fight and conquer
I think August 14, 15 or 16 is FIFA day for friendlies, FAZ must play Morrocco or Tunisia or Libya on this day. It makes sense to camp there.
I agree, its about time we quit this playing reserves sides story. We need to e playing the best we can get not playing reserve sides and getting cricket score lines that is not helping us at all. The players play with no heart in such friendlies. I hope somebody with some really good ptching skills is on the phone at fotball house negotiating friendlies with proper teams. It seems all of a sudden we have this trend of playing reserves. It started a while ago when we camped in Spain. We need these games to up our profile so that major teams can now consider playing with us at their own cost.
Lolo, not even Algeria camp in Algeria, they spend team in France or Belgium, Cameroun too. Its better to camp away, what ever you say. I know FAZ has been blamed for not playing friendlies. But had we played a game before the Rwanda game, we were not going to be a full team, remember a lot of players were only released at the last minute. The other FIFA day was soon after the Egpyt game. People don’t look at it this way, if we played a friendly, we are most likely to use home based players. I read that Superspot are back in training, it means guys like Noah and Nkausu have had no rest.
Great news,hop we throw in a caple of friendlies while we there…News from Algerian camp is that these guys have been so ovawhelmed by our fair-play on Saturdae; they claim Zambia is one of the rare teams that would eva show such fair-play even in defeat in africa..even the journalist who covered the story sadly sez they (algeria) would most likely return the favour..lol Chipolopolo for life…
We hope they do Gesh. I am told they (Algerians) were lecturing to us what they even wanted to to see such as centimetres to use when putting the goal posts back on the pitch at Konkola stadium on Friday before the game like I pointed out in my blog yesterday.
So I hope seriously they will treat the Chipolopolo well. But Gesh, can we take their word for granted?
We need to play as many friedlies as possible not just one. Can you really suffeicently gauge combinations after just one firendly?? believe you me if we play at least even four games before the game it will make a hell of a lot of difference than just one. The coach is really only getting to test combinations in actual games and this is not good. He should know them well before the game. For some odd reason in Zambia we tend to not realise the importance of friendlies. We seem to think they are just another training session and sadly even people in FAZ have this mentality. The mental strength playing teams like Nigeria and Morroco would bring to the boys is something playing Pirates reserves here in SA can never do.
The team should have been playing friendlies long before unlike just camping in south africa. Ok camping in SA is a good idea. FAZ should have taken advantage of the confed cup to play friendlies or training matches with those teams.
Now coming back to the saturday loss. Gentlemen with due respect, in crucial tournaments like WC qualifiers, use should be made of home ground advantage. A loss at home should not even be mentioned if a team is to qualify for a world cup spot. A worst result at home should be a draw. This is the situation I hate to see Zambia in. It has been like that before and definitely history will repeat itself. This dependence on mathematics in order to qualify will not work for Zambia. Lets face the truth. It will not be easy in Algeria and Algeria wil not be that unwise as to let us get away with 3 points. Yes its good and actually wise to be optimistic but the reality is we gave away 3 points on saturday at home. And it will be difficult to recover those three points. I dont want to blame anyone for this loss, but the players themselves are to blame. All was done for them in terms of camping in SA where there good training facilities but they failed to rise to the occasion. Ok quite alroght they played well, but playing well alone is not enough without scoring goals. Zambia in a long run has been lacking players who has a die-hard attitude. There seems to be no fighting spirit in the team when chips are down. Yes they got a point away in Cairo and I give them thumbs up. But staurday’s loss explains otherwise, lack of consistency in our team. Consistency is about character and some players lack character. The team also lacks leadership. We need somebody to encourage the boys on the field.
A missed opportunity is never recovered. Enough said, the way forward is for players to just go their do their best and hope for a good result in the remaining matches. And dont expect too much from these guys.
I think we should look even beyond that. Kalu, this is where you should pull strings and use your contacts to get us games against decent opposition. Even European teams. That will give our boys exposure to big names and big clubs. Not playing Pirates reserve, reserve, reserve team…lol. Good luck Zambia, we can do it.
On one hand though, Chamz was talking about the rest players will get and i agree about this concern. So i’m not sure more than one friendly game is the way to go. Even the amount of time players spend in camp has to be just right and I’m sure HR has the best sense in determining, maybe he would keep the guys in camp 2 months, but sometimes the longer is not better at this stage. Of course i agree about the emphasis we now have to place on getting higher profile friendlies and i hope the authorities do too.
I think we are still making the same mistake even after being exposed by the Algerian,that is still overrating ourselves.Every one seem to think we played well when the situation on the ground is complete the opposite.We did not play well!I said it earlier before the game,our central defense lacks height,the first goal could have been avoided with a good defence and that would was the turning point of the match.If you cant score you must always depend on your defence not to concede silly goals like the first one.We have been riding on luck with that central defence.If we do not change it we will be spanked again in Algeria,we were lucky against Rwanda and Egypt.I still believe HR erred in dropping Mbesuma,all he needed was
psychological help!He had put in lot of work in training before the game against Rwanda but unfortunately we the so called fans brought him down because of the penalty miss when he needed us most.He is still a better option than Singulume.I do not see any of our current strikers scoring in Algeria.
we will do it in Algeria!
Let’s hope this camping in North Africa materialises. This is the way to go. And i could only wish for a friendly with a team like Tunisia because they are just of the same make/type football wise with Algeria. On our striker – looking around at the moment, i am failing to come up with anyone other than Mbesuma. Maybe i am being too myopic but who, pipo, amongst our current crop of strikers do you think can be put up there and score??? Praying for the best.
I am not too sure if our defence needs the most atention at the moment I agree though that in our group we have conceded the second highest number of goals, 3 to be exact in three games. This drums down to conceding a goal a game which is not a good ratio but then again I still think a great deal of emphasis needs to be placed on developing a finisher at this stage. An in the box striker whose sole purpose is to bury at least two out of every three chances that come his way. I dont agree with you on Mbesuma being the answer, at this stage we have to agree he needs a lot of work to get back and by the look of things even this seems far fetched. After CHAN Given seems to be another Adubelo Phiri and I think we should be considering other players for that role now. We take centuries in zambia before we find that striker. Somehow the bulk of our great players over the years always turn out to be attacking midfielders and the trend continues. Even now its the Kalabas, Gattussos and feligos who are most likely to get man of the match. before it was the Kalu’s, the Johnsons, The Mbaselas etc. As for strikers there just always seems to be this gap. Since Ucar the next natural seemed to be kelvin mutale, look at that gap. Yes we have had many a great striker but that in the box striker with at least a 70% strike rate. After kelvin we had Mbesuma and now we have nothing again. HR has a huge task of developing one of these boys into that striker. even the Algerians say we played better than them and they were lucky so it means this one element of our team needs a major overhual.
Two or more games with other Arabic teams will do the trick. We should just make sure we use the actual players who will be part of the final team, not a team full of local players.
Lets also utilise international friendly dates to play teams like Morrocco, Tunisia and Libya in their backyards.
The key word is PREPARATION!!!Its not over until its over like ba Muzo said yesterday
Colleagues,
Its is plain clear that the world cup is not for teams like Zambia. The reasons teams like Cameroun and now Invory Coast, Ghana, Nigeria will always make it to the world cup is the pedigree of their players. They have world class players (strikers and midfilfers) that can score and strethch opposition at any time. Zambia hasnt got this quality of players. I think that most soccer fans in Zambia are not realistic and cheat ourselves that we have a great team, yet non of our players plays for a decent team in Europe. we have players playing for reserve teams in Israel and we think we can qualify to the World Cup.
The best we can do for now is to ensure that even the Africa cup does not slip. This means that against Egypt, we should avoid defeat and hope for a draw in Kigali. Otherwise, even Africa cup will be a tall order.
With Regard to the Defence, I am also concerned about the lack of height in the central defence. Dennis Banda and Nyambe Mulenga are too short for central defence. Its time Hichani is groomed for one of those positions. Another consideration should be the Red Arrows defender Dan Siyuni.
For our striking force, we are in really really problems. The last 5 games, none of the strikers has scored. It has been midfielders. Their lies the problem. Looking in the league, one cant pick out any credible striker. Here colleagues, we have a big problem.
@amos mumba
Maybe we were to quick to judge Collins. There was one time in the game he was holding the ball in the left of the box, i think he lost the ball and i judged him on that and not the penalty, but we must be fair he was pressed hard. I think HR said he would still be considering Collins, we could use that kind of hold up play … It is a late stage to integrate him now, i feel though.
interesting point. I think it is a valid point. We need a prolific goal scorer. I don’t know why, but I am confident that Zambian football (resource wise) is on the mend. Look in the striking department we have Kola and Mayuka who I think will be world class players if nutured correctly. In the mid field we have Kalaba who I think is well on his way to becoming a quality player. In Defence we have Mbola who simply picks himself at left back. We have a good crop of players waiting in the wings to take us to the next level. What we should do is avoid wholesale changes when we lose. This core of this squad will peak in 4 years time. But they can still claim their place in history by taking us to the 2010 world cup. 3 games, thats all it takes.
I strongly support camping in north Africa because,
1. We need to acclimatise to the north africa climatic conditions (Have you seen the way Italy, spain and the other foreign teams were getting tired at the confederation cup, change in climate!They even started blaming the Vuvuzelas)
2. This will help us get friendlies with the north african teams to help up our game.
3. Camping out increases teams focus on training than at home were families, tu ma girl friends and all will be disturbing calls.
I agree, we are a young team but its not by accident that we are competing at this level. All these teams competing bantu fye nabena with their own problems and troubles. This ka small team of ours has some good history in the qualifying stages so, let us approach the game with positivity as opossed to negativity. Thats the only way teams win.
“Aim for the moon so that even if you miss you will land on the stars”
JC, I don’t quite agree, Togo made it last time ahead of Senegal. Abebayor was not even a prolific striker then. Angola made it simply based on a lot of monetatry motivation. We are going on about the boys, but what is in for them if they qualify? Bafana are getting almost 100 000 each just for playing in the Con cup. We may say we don’t have that kind of money but the players need motivation besides playing for national pride.
If it materialises,it would a plus for our team. on friendlies, FAZ should organise with Morroco or Tunisia or both. Otherwise, GOOD Luck Zambia
Chipolopolo! “Shoot aiming for the moon so that even if we miss will land among the stars”
Go Zambia Go
Where are pictures from Saturday’s game? I have only seen one on Lusaka Times
we will definitely do it!sill in contention even Algeria is not at peace!
good luck guys…
From what I saw with the USA, the contest is not over but our team must believe and play with purpose. I think it will be easy playing in Algeria, Zambia can simply sit back and counter attack, just play a defensive game. Besides, we must not lose out on Africa Cup. There is no guarantee that Algeria will beat Egpyt and Rwanda, who are also playing for WC and Angola.
@jc
I also dont agree especially on the point that we dont have any player making a mark in Europe. There are a lot of reasons why zambian players are not out there and 90% of the reasons are not even based on the quality of players or skill. Frankly speaking in your opinion after the years, is Arron mokoena a better or ever been a better central back than Elijah Tana. You will say no and yet there is Arron holding his own in the best league in the world. Him playing there does not necessarily mean he is better than those not there. A few things about why Zambian players are held back from going out there:
1. goal Keepers – generally the hieght aspect of goal keepers will be questioned before a European club even starts to consider signing a keeper. This obviously works in the negative for zambian goal keepers.
2. Defenders – There have been a few who have made it but in all honesty there is a stereotype when it comes to signing african defenders. the need to not only be tall but big. Regardless of skill and pace the first thing they lok at is size. Yobo is not a great defender but his size has worked for him. Mbazo (mokoena) is also gifted with height and a bit of bulk. when these clubs want skill they look to south america.
3. Name – Nenani Banda who has been in the industry once told us on this blog that we need a big name player out there. He mentioned we need a Mcarthy type name out there and this name will spill over to other players from the same country.
Thats just three issues and as you can see all three have nothing to do with being a great skillful player its just other factors and thats why for us its midfilders that make the mark. Eto’ never has man of the match performances when he is at the africa cup why do you think this is so for one of the greatest strikers on planet earth. Dont ever be intimidated by the whole europe thing. A lot of the time its not even the best the end up there. our boys have what it takes, its just been long overdue and now too much time has made us loose faith.
There is something wrong with our local coaches. That is where the problem is. They have failed to groom players who can perform at National level. Teams like Zesco and Zanaco depend on poaching instead of scouting for players in rural areas and townships. GBFC were very successful in that field during the 70’s and 80’s. We should not expect HR to be doing the job of club coaches. It is up to the clubs to produce players
Our players had the right height before we started taking part in Under Age Competitions. So the short and dimunitive players end up as U17’s, U20 and U23’s. This is because of age cheating. These same guys end up in Chipolopolo. People say even Spain are small, yes but the defence and strikers are tall: Pique, Puyol are not small men. Strikers like Torres and Villa are not short. Strikers and defenders must have above average height. I don’t mind short midfielders like Messi. I know short people on this blog will disagree. If you look at teams of yester years, you will see the Chombas, Soko, Estones, Kalus,Chansas, Kelvin Mutales, these guys had big bodies. Yes we had short players like Numba, Johnstone but short players were not the majority. How do you defend set pieces with Clifford and Felix katongo type of heights. I hope you guys are seeing Brazil big men at set pieces in SA.
Big Steve, even South Africans fans think Aaron is useless but having played for Ajax and BlackBurn now PortsMouth, I don’t think he is bad as people make him to be. He may not be the most talanted but like u said he has body and power, height etc. Above-displine and patience. Why would Portsmouth buy a player who warms the bench? A good lesson for our Felix.
@Chamz
I did not say Arron was bad, I was comparing him to E.Tana. He has a very good record that can only count if you are a good player. He was bafanas youngest captain back in the day, he debuted at the age of 18 for the national team and like you say one thing he has got the beats a lot of our boys is discipline. But again one things for sure, he has never been better than Tana.
The talk is indeed on and on and everyone has the right to thier opinion … i totally disagree with the notion that we can’t win with the current crop of players, i want to retaliate the fact that it is the same crop of players that got us thru to the second round, mind you we came ahead of Togo with the so called ‘players in top euro clubs’ … there many teams in africa who never made it to the world cup despite having many players in the europian leagues, egypt have won the last two CAN editions despite having alarge contigent of home grown material … as for me and my heart i still beleive my team Zambia in tis current team can cause havoc in algeria, get the necessary points level up with algerian on points and then defeat egypt at the ‘blades stadium’ to gain ten points before squaring it with Rwanda in kigali by then we will hve known the top team (i favour zambia, ive all the rights to). i will not lose the belief that this is our season to make new and great records … yes even defeat like the one we suffered at the hands of algeria is enough mental preparedness … the pain of defeat helps one realise the joy of victory and also makes one alive to the possibility of defeat and consequently helps one to gurad against defeat … simple questions to us all … can Zambia beat Algeria at home? the answer is if Zambia can draw Algeria at home then they can also win in the last minute, this is football, Zambia can beat beat any team anywhere just like it can be beaten by anyteam even a select side … why dwell on the negative!!!??? why not remain positive for your land why go to battle in the first place if you are not expecting any victory??? my heart is ever expectant and will always … even there is any curse on the Zambian football like one person suggested i remove it from our land in the mighty NAME of JESUS our Lord and Saviour!!! of course I pray that football shall never be placed higher than the WORD of GOD… God bless the republic and all in all … proud Zambian … Shalom, Shalom, Shalom … Go Zambia and reclaim the momentum you have shown the past number of games, remember we lost to togo but still were top of them at the end of the race??? all things are possible … this is no dream but a vision … better die with hope than none at all … win or lose the Name of the LORD is to be praised in our great land of Zambia … GO Zambia and defeat algeria, egypt and rwanda scoring an average of 2.5 goals per match and we will head to SA 2010 … anyone with HR and players cell phone numbers??? i wanna build them up with confidence … pls send me on 0977 845028. God bless us all
Chris Katongo has been a very big disappointment, going by his performances for Zambia, I can now clearly see why his team in germany was demoted. he is no longer the same katongo we used to know. instead of rising to the occasion when the chips are down, katongo just simply can’t. i think he should be benched, probably that will teach him a big lesson. some players only learn to be consistent when they are benched
in the name of the LORD, the Amavubi are gonna be blessed and victorious
100% in agreement.
Rookies(Nyambe/Dennis)need a taller experienced defender say HH.Gametime 12 i disagree when you say Nyambe and dennis are the best defeneders we have.These boys have only played three competitive matches.Whom were we using before? and how many goals did we concede then?
We will never be the same. Can Chipungu release the Gabon Report, maybe the souls of those guys have not rested in peace. Stop using Konkola Stadium we lost lives there and we have just forgotten about them. FIFA are crap they keep on remembering Vivian whatever but not our Gabon disaster team, Shame on you FIFA. As long as that report is swept under the carpet we should not expect anything, beleive me you guys amulopa wa muntu wa lishupa
Ba Katongo nabo captain mu 2 division, give that arm band to Isaac or Sinkala
Nyambe and Banda are better than Nketani, Billy Mwansa unless you did not watch the Cameroun game-5-1, whem Nketani was so star struck that he passed the ball to Etoo and cheered Etoo for breaking the goal scoring record, in many other countries, that defence would have gone to jail. The funny thing is that Patrick Phiri maintained the same team for the next game!!!
karim, you have not qualified yet, you are topping the group. Yes Algeria beat Zambia, I agree you were the better team (you scored) but I don’t think you are a top team yet. Besides, your team should called Algerians born in France, who were not good to play for France. That boy in Spain, whom you want, has he agreed to play for Algeria.
Karim, how many of your current team, were born in Algeria? How many have dual citizenship? I am not against that, good for your country, I just want to know.
Who, among the Algerian players, was born in France ? Come on, answer it
You are very right brother. If Zambia win in Algeria and Rwanda I will collapse
Every player has his low moments.Katongo is going through one at the moment.Please understand, him he is just human.
Bane we lost and lets us not think Algeria are fools and will let us win in their backyard. We will be butchered. Since when has a Zambian team won in Algeria, zero (0). I am Zambian and should say the best team in this group is Algeria, regardless where they get players from, why don’t we get players of Zambian origin from Britain cause we are crap, no money no football
He is just crap the earlie we accept the better otherwise this will end up like the Mbesuma issue, use your eyes and not loyalt. Zambia are crap and that is the fact most of you do not to face. Big Steve has been calling for experience and you have laughed at him what now imwe ba ka ponya
the isaac chansa you are talking about is one of those who gifted goals on a silver plate to the camerounians. the only player who is worth a national team call up is andrew sinkala, not these failed players you are touting like bakala, tana and nketani. spare us please
FMB, why will you collapse? Why?
To Chamz :
See, you can’t answer.
By the way, do you mean that a Zambian boy born outside Zambia is NOT Zambian ?
Can’t you answer this one too ?
Agreed he is really crap, what a captain, bena kalu used to stand up and be counted as for Chris kabili tapaba isomo, poor English not knowing why he is captain he is crap and that is the truth Kalaba for captain
The crap has hit the fan…. BTW ,what we have as a coach is a physical trainer, and what we have as a physical trainer is a FUTSAL expert. Two upstarts apparently. Lets say if zambia fails to make it to angola ,the same who call HR” Super Fox” will raise the issue of his qualification, sounds familliar?And then about the “world cup dream”… This is the time to face reality and accept it, we cannot make it to SA. It hurts a lot less when you dont expect much
FMB, since when did a Zambian team drew in Egpyt? But we did last time 1-1. Why should you give up. Algeria have 7-points, we have 4, when we win in Algeria, we will 7. Assuming Egpty beats Rwanda, they will have 4 points. What makes you think Algeria will win in Cairo? Or that they will beat Rwanda. Yes, they won, they in the driving seat but have not qualified yet. Common man you never had social studies? France has a big Algerian population (millions almost Zambia’s population. Does Zambia have a big population in UK? This group is still open, they beat us in Zambia, why can’t we beat them away? Stop this inferiority complex.
i just hope the Amavubi can beat Egypt at Amahoro stadium so that both our teams have tickets to Angola
Go Rwanda, you know that your team has also fast tracked West Africans to become Rwandase so that you can become a strong team. I am not against Rwanda or Algeria using whoever has their passports to play for their teams. I am teasing the Algerians who are so excited that they think they have qualified with three games to go and are only ahead by 3 points. Rwanda can win the remaining 4 games and qualify, Egpyt can also win all the games and quailify, so can Zambia.
Zambia beat Egypt 5-3 in a tournamnet played their. Do your research Mr.
And when Algeria have 7 points and we have 4, in your mind we are better, walifwa umutwe or what? Blind supporter. We were wire at home and you think we will beat them, you really cray mune
wired
Some of the comments here border on insanity. It’s difficult for you to suggest players that you dont watch. Chris Katongo may be struggling because his team struggled. The boys one day will do better. Keep it Zed. Viva objectivity! Viva positivity! Viva Chipolopolo. Aluta Continua. Nangu tuwine, nangu tuluse, tuli bana ba ZAMBIA!
To frank Zambia will not even make it to AFCON in Angola
Chamz, you are using sarcastic language. There is no point in debating you. One last thing, even Guardiola the Barca coach wouldn’t have your over-confidence (I mean cheap talk). bye.
Ya mu yaya umu yaya lyonse kulu sa, kabili twa libelala
Ichibi
Algeria is better
After, the saturday game, I though all was lost but with a sober mind, the battle is not over. Remember that day in Cape Town? I was sleeping, when my friend in Zambia text me saying Zambia was 3-0 up, yes the same Chris Katongo, you are againt now.
Thanks for the info, Karim. We know about the French team and Zidane, the best thing ever with Algerian blood. I like that guy, Zidane. So answer my question. How many players in your current team were born in Algeria?
Zambia and Egpyt are the only geniune 100% local blood teams in our group. The other two teams are Diaspora teams, good for them. We are just too harsh for our boys (home grown talent).
The best thing ever with Algerian blood were those fallen martyrs who freed Algeria and Africa from French colonization. But, a mind like yours would not understand.
FMB,you are now under cover? The martyrs you are taking about fought in Algeria, I don’t remember them in Cameroun, Ivory Coast or DRC or any other Franco phone African country.
FBM Please leave Chamz alone, he is more logical than you and your brother Charim. Algeria is just an average team, Rwanda was even stronger than Algeria. Our loss by two goals was against the flow of the game, any fool who watched the game acknowldged that Zambia played far much better than your team. victories over Zambia and Egypyt can not be the sole basis of grading a team. We have 3/4 chances of beating Algeria in the return leg while you have Zero chance of winning in Cairo and you will be lucky to draw with Rwanda when they come to Algeria.
I am not FMB. I can tell he is a much more honorable man than you can ever be. You are just a pathetic human being.
FBM a question to you, how did the USA make it to semi-finals in the confed cup? It does not matter whether they were lucky or they just fought till the last breath, it just shows that anything is possible in football. Lets wait and see, but if we lose in Algeria then we should just forget about it.
You ain’t got no chance to beat Algeria. None whatsoever. Zip. Nil. Zero. You will even be clobbered by Rwanda. And you are not good enough to beat Egypt.
Chamz,
Your observation about Togo and Angola is right. But where is Angola and Togo now. Its because they are not great teams. Our team is not great. Its just an average team. Qualifying to World Cup would be more of an accident that something out of greatness. This is the point.
The game against Rwanda should have rang bells in many fans that not all was well in the team, but as usual we burried our heads in sand and consoled ourselves with the three points. The Algeria game was the final nail on the coffin that our team lacks character and consistency, all because we dont have excpetional players, and we continue to cheat ourselves that we can win away to qualify.
FBM and Squad cannot handle a loss, before we played against Algeria FBM didn’t you think it was possible for them to win? You must be one of those fans who were predicting a blow out to Algeria. I did not predict the outcome of the match because I understand that teams like Senegal once beat France at the world cup. Anything is possible in this sport, you should be able to swallow this pill. Otherwise you are not strong enough to be a die hard fan.
Anonymous you are just plain ignorant to say that we have no chance of beating Algeria, in Algiers. The fact that Algeria beat us in Chilis proves any team is beatable. Egypt beat Italy by 1 goal, and Italy was clearly the better team. But then again if you look at the results in that group, you will agree that those results were unpredictable. Who knew that the USA would clobber Egypt by 3 goals? I’m not predicting anything for now, Am just confident that we have a good chance of beating Algeria at their home ground. We have nothing to lose, but everything to die for.
Karim, thanks for the info, 7 players born in France. I agree there are millions of Algerians in France. Karim, I guess if we had millions of Zambians in UK, I guess, we would do the same. My point to the fellow Zambians was that we are too harsh for our young team when they lose to players born in France and play in better teams. The other point is that we are not as bad as people like FMB make us to be. Karim do you think you will win in Cairo? What is the history like Algeria and Egpyt?
@Gametime12
Gametime12 : please re-read the context of that reply. I was replying in consequence to someone who said foolishly that there is 3/4 chances for Zambia to beat Algeria in Algiers while Algeria had zero chance of beating Egypt in Cairo. So, why should the possibility of an upset hold for Zambia and not for Algeria. Do you see what I see ?
Head-to-head wins (as per Fifa) :
MEN: Algeria 7 – Egypt 5
WOMEN: Algeria 2 – Egypt 1
I can also give head-to-head wins between Algeria and Zambia but I guess you already know that
Guys with a sobber mind, this group is open. Yes advantage Algeria but like Game 12 says, what makes us think Algeria will win all the remaining games? Football has peaks and slumps, who knows we can peak in Blid and Kagali. At this point they boys have nothing to lose really, if we fail 2010, lets make sure we don’t miss Angola.
We can even draw in Algeria, win in Rwanda, And win at home and still make it to the world cup. Algeria will stumble. But we need goals more than ever.
My prediction:
Egypt wins in Rwanda, Cairo and lose in Zambia – 7pts
Algeria draws at home, beat Rwanda , lose in Cairo – 11pts
Zambia draws in Algiers, wins in Rwanda, wins At home – 11pts
Rwanda will cause an upset somewhere and spell doom any of the 3 teams.
If my Prediction stands it will come down to goal difference once again. Its not over gentlemen!!
Guys, dont throw in the towel yet. This is the same team which made us so proud when they drew in Cairo. Now they have hit a big hitch and we calling for all sorts of surgery….
Yes we got to to re- enforce the team were we can but some of you sound so sceptical. As for me I remain optimistic.
I draw this optimism from the fact that our team is a relatively young team. It can only improve. What they got over the weekend is a bitter lesson with some invaluable experience. We are not dealing with a crop of very old players, or players who have been on the scene too long like you would see with the Egyptians. Most of our boys still have room to improve.
I would be surprised if we saw some real cute discipline even in the defence which has let in 3 goals in 3 games during the next game. I wouldnt wwant to discard Nyambe and Dennis yet for that central defensive partnership. They held their own against the mighty Pharoahs who tore apart Brazil and I think looking at the average age of the defence, our boys can only improve by the game.
The Kalabas, Feligoals, Galctico Fwayo, gangling Jacob seem to to have a lot of room to up their game and we can do better than last saturday.
Guys who is FMB? And where is Kayira? That is not to say, I am against their views, they just sound bitter and angry.
Half way, Algeria have had a perfect start. One thing is kicking in my head, why should we only go to Algeria to fulfill a fixture? Why not beat them? Common guys, we can’t be give up now.
Good point Chamz. I feel we will play better away than we did in Chilis, mainly because of the pitch. Thats sad to say, but I think its the reality. We’ve become a team that plays better away from home. I like how Marty USA has played it out. Go Zambia Go!
Nice one Marty.We are all that optimistic.But dont let us think we are that good.There is work to be done.Our wins,if any, have been very slender of late.Our defense is pathetic.I disagree with gametime12 who seems to think Nyambe and dennis are the best central defense we can offer now.We need to work on burying the opportunities we create, and we need to have a defense that will not concede.3 games played,Goals for 2, goals against 3, goal diff -1.Tells you stories.
We can still pull thru tho.All we need is to work at what did not work against Algeria,botrh defensewise and strikewise.
All the best abena Zambia.
As an after thought: Good permutations Marty.But look at this
Algeria have scored 5 goals and conceded 1 (GD +4).Zambia have scored 2 and conceded 3.(GD -1).That means we need 5 goals just to be on level terms with Algeria in terms of goals, and our strike force hasnt looked like one that can score that many goals.That said, i am still optimistic that we will make it, if Renard can see where the problems in the Team are.I have reservations about the Kabamba guy,remember Kamwashi? That could happen with these congolese.We have enough arsenal in Zed without turning to foreigners!
Lets go to Algeria and do what they did here.
Hlexi- the problem is scoring not defence, had we scored first, the game would have a different face. We remember that we have lost at home before-SA-1-0, Senegal and others. Football is a combination of a lot of things, even luck. No one thought USA to qualify for semis. My point is why would Zambia go to Algeria and give them three points, we must fight to win. You guys are forgetting Angola, surely we can’t miss both.
Hlexi:
The problem is that Renard sometimes doesnt seem to know where the problem is.He himself is a ‘rookie’ as you have put it, what do yiou expect?
Hlexi, no that is guarantee, Algeria will win the next three games.
This munaile guy also…unnamed north african country???..unnamed because NO arrangements have been made,, and then last minute…Camping in RSA then play orlando pirates youth…these guys KAYA!
If we have have to make it out of this position..i mean difficult position serious..very serious preparation have to be made.
Chamz – Scoring is a problem, i totally agree.But what of the defense? These boys (Nyambe/Dennis) have played three games.Conceded in two.If you watch them closely, you will see that at times they are at sixes and sevens.Seemingly lost.With good opposition,as was the case with Algeria, they are a disaster.I have no problems with Musonda & Mbola.Central defense and central strike is my main main worry………….
Chola, Renard has brought displine. Players like Tana, who showed up when they wanted have been shown the door. Pompous players like Cliford are out. We have a professional approach. Renard, I think someone on the blog mentioned it when he had a chat with Patrice that Zambian players had an inflority complex, he is working on that. Also, players are fighting for places now. Look at Muzo, he is displaced Mishesk, I am sure pretty soon, Chris, Felix and others will be on the bench.
There are no guarantees in Soccer ba Chamz, if so, then there would be no need to play.We play because we have a chance.And we do have a chance, just like Egypt, Algeria, & Rwanda.What we should do is just do our part, and hope that Algeria falter.
Egpyt- have conceded 4 goals, Rwanda 1 goal both teams are at the bottom, yes with one game in hand. Iraq conceded 1 goal in SA, they are home now. The US conceded six goals scored four and qualified. Our problem is scoring. I feel Timothy Mbewe and Signs Chibambo and Boyd Mwila should be given a chance. Some people are talking about Kola, the boy has not done anything in SA.
@Chamz
@Chola
yes, we have lost at home before but shouldn’t be a habit.USA won that not because they are good team but because they were organised as team..(organised from management to the last man in the team). They picked themselves up from two defeats..just listen to what munaile is saying..eish disorganistation at its best.
chola you are right Renard is a rookis maybe we shouldn’t expect too much from the guy, maybe he can only take us up to angola.
Kola has made a mark in the PSL, to me he’s better than Given
but others are more human than others…mbesuma maybe is less/”small” human…
In last Afcon Zambia had conceded 6 goals in three matches Hlexi, this proves that our defense has improved. And may be you should look up the definition of a counter attack Hlexi.
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Hlexi’s argument does not hold water, I asked him to come up with two central defenders that are better than Nyambe and Denis. His just a critic of the two, its funny how his the only one who thinks they are that bad. The fact that everybody is talking about scoring should suggest that its our main problem. I don’t think they would have scored a second goal if Tembo had made that God given chance. They caught us on the counter right after the miss, like i said before football is a game of chances. If you don’t make your chances then expect them to turn against you. Zambia did everything they had to do, except scoring.
See wikipedia…majority of the Algerian players are born in France. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion because they’re Algerian 100% blood still. If only Zambia could get foreign-born Zambians to play for Zambia.
In your dreams.
I do not see Algeria risking any games by going all out to score goals. I do not see Algeria scoring more than 3 goals in the next three games and not definitely keeping a clean sheet. Between Zambia and Egypt they will concede 3 goals at-least. My prediction does not have Zambia winning in Algeria. If we won it would change everything. I strongly believe we can win. We are playing the best football in this group. BUT! we need goals. Zambia has always played better under pressure. I am not a betting man but if I were I would be putting my chips on Zambia to come through.
Old guards call for more friendlies
By Sports Reporter
THE Zambia soccer team must play a number of quality friendly matches if they are to have an impact in the last round of the 2010 World Cup and African Cup qualifiers, experts have observed.
The former internationals also said mere camping in South Africa to prepare for such a huge task was not good enough to gauge the team’s preparedness.
In separate interviews in the wake of Zambia’s 0 -2 loss to Algeria at the weekend, former international goalkeeper Abraham Nkole said Zambia needed to play high profile teams, which were also in contention for the World Cup berths, as part of the preparations.
“Our team needs to play friendlies with countries which are currently preparing for the World Cup and African Cup, not what they have been doing by preparing in South Africa,” Nkole said.
He said for the return leg against Algeria on September 5, coach Herve Renard should consider including experienced players who were able to withstand the pressure from the ‘Desert Foxes’.
Nkole urged Renard to work on the midfield and frontline, which he said had deficiencies.
Fighton Simukonda, another former national team defender, urged the team to work hard in the next game because chances of qualifying to the 2010 World Cup and African Cup were still there.
Simukonda, who is KCM-FAZ Premier Division, Zesco United coach, said last Saturday’s game against Algeria exposed the team’s finishing weakness.
“The team can still qualify but we need to work hard on our finishing which was poor,” he said.
Ex-Zambia midfielder Tenant Chilumba said the team lacked the fighting spirit and leadership on the pitch.
Chilumba emphasised the importance of having a fighting spirit as it enhances player confidence.
“Our team lacked fighting spirit and it does’t have the leader as this was exposed when the captain Christopher Katongo was substituted,” Chilumba said.
Willie Phiri, a former Zambia midfielder, said Zambia’s failure on the international scene stemed from lack of developmental sides where the technical bench could have been using to select players from.
He said the players also seemed to lack basic knowledge in soccer, which he said needed to be addressed by the coaches.
Phiri said there was need to put in place a deliberate policy to develop many quality players for national duty to help improve the team’s performance.
“We need to put in place a deliberate policy to build players for the national team. The demands for playing for the national team should be very high,” he said.
Phiri suggested that players should be identified in communities, as they could have played for the various age groups at the lower levels.
“ We need quality international friendlies if that fails, then let FAZ organise a four-nation tournament which will be used to prepare for the qualifiers,” he added.
Gents cease fire! The road is still open. We just need to focus on the next game. I think Renard ‘Sly Fox’ Herve must show his braveness again by dropiing Given and then giving Christopher Katong an ultimatum that if he fails to imrpove in 30 minutes he must go and eat ice on the bench. Fwayo must start ahead of Given because of his West african experience. felix is also another player who may carry the day because he plays in France. He should blend with Jacob. Recalling Mbesuma will be another option.
These are not my thoughts, i just stumbled on this and thought i should share it with you. Makes interesting reading though.
“Insanity is some times described as doing the same things over and
over again and expecting different results. In this case, FAZ has used
the PE Teacher over and over and expects Zambia to go to the World
or Africa Cup?
Reasons
Ø Renard is not a coach for Soccer or any other game that involves a ball
Patrick Phiri has played soccer and was the first Zambian Coach to
qualify to the under 20 world cup
Ø For two years on, he has failed to win even the least
recognized tournament(Cosafa) by FIFA
PP has won the cosafa, qualified to the Africa cup, and has won an
arsenal of local silver ware
Ø He has not Coached any team which groups to kick or throw a
ball, before he came here.
Ø He claims to be building the team for two years now. At which
stage of the building process is he at now?
The team Renard destroyed was constituted by PP
Ø When he gets a positive result, he says has completed building
the team and just waiting for results. When the results are in the
opposite he claims he is still building.
PP was consistent,never claimed to be building a team when he lost
Ø His salary is 20 times that of second Assistant George
Lwandamina also called Chicken George. Georges salary is chicken
change to Renard.
PP up to date has not been paid by FAZ for his diligent service while
in charge of the team
Ø HR has never scored more than one goal in a crucial game even
with more than ten pros at his disposal
PP cannibalized a full strength SA national team in their backyard
when the same time and day, his family was being evicted in kitwe.
For one second, imagine giving PP just a K20m salary, a car and a house.
FAZ Choose twice to go and Camp and train in SA when the league in
that country was on recess. They played a madalas select and won 9-0.
Why train on smooth turf when u be using a bump pitch?
By the way, Egypt is organizing a friendly with Malawi. A team that
beat them 1-0 at Home. Malawi has constantly been pursuing the
services of PP. Zambia on the other hand is planning a training camp
in UK when they will be playing Arabs?
Kindly confirm this with Boniface. Renard did not know the process
used to Choose a footballer of the year. He wanted Singuluma to be FBY
for scoring three goal in one tournament.
CC: Blatter
Kaka
Pele
Fred Mmembe
RB
Kapoko”
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Dream on
We are just crap and dreamers, a country with no stadium and yet we just want to talk like dogs
I thinck it is a good idea to camp in N/Africa, but the team must play friendlies with teams in N/Africa Tunisia for instance, even good clubs based in North Africa it will be a plus.
Kolokombwa wanisekesa….
You have even copied abena Kapoko sure….
FBM, yashani.
@Kolokombwa
True this one……………..
Your reasonning is like that of a grade 0 child. Whats wrong with Algerians who are in France? They are Algerians. In fact you should be blaming France for “stealing” Africans to play for the Le Bleu (France). Zinedine Zidane he Algerian but France stole him. Kwata amano mwaiche iwe. Finshi ulelanda?
Renard needs to work on all areas in the team.
Without taking anything away from the defence, it is suicidal in modern football to have two centre backs who are less than 1.90m tall.
If Renard is looking for a defender, Didier Drogba, the Chelsea striker should be the measure, so should the likes of Samuel Eto’o, Dmitar Berbatov, Carlos Tevez, including Portsmouth’s Peter Crouch.DAILY MAIL REVIEW.
The best we can do with our central defence is to intruduce a taller defender like Chintu or Himoonde to partner Nyambe or Denis.Although every one is talking about scoring,our central defenders need some height.HR knew from video review of Algeria’s games that they capitalised on their height advantage during set piece situations.The issue was not about if we are had scored first but if we are not conceeded that silly first goal due lack of height in defence because it took away our momentum.lack of height in defence exposes a goalkeeper and we will still be punished if we do not realise that again.If we do not score ,we should not concede and that is how a great team plays in such important games.It is redeemable if you miss chances and do not score than when you make to mistakes in defence.
Renard needs to work on all areas in the team.
Without taking anything away from the defence, it is suicidal in modern football to have two centre backs who are less than 1.90m tall.
If Renard is looking for a defender, Didier Drogba, the Chelsea striker should be the measure, so should the likes of Samuel Eto’o, Dmitar Berbatov, Carlos Tevez, including Portsmouth’s Peter Crouch.DAILY MAIL REVIEW.
The best we can do with our central defence is to intruduce a taller defender like Chintu or Himoonde to partner Nyambe or Denis.Although every one is talking about scoring,our central defenders need some height.HR knew from video review of Algeria’s games that they capitalised on their height advantage during set piece situations.The issue was not about if we are had scored first but if we are not conceeded that silly first goal due lack of height in defence because it took away our momentum.lack of height in defence exposes a goalkeeper and we will still be punished if we do not realise that again.If we do not score ,we should not concede and that is how a great team plays in such important games.It is redeemable if you miss chances and do not score than when you make mistakes in defence.
Amos Mumba you guys make logic, unluck people like FBM with baseless critism and offering no solutions
unlike people like FBM
Am waiting for Kapoko’s comment after being copied to by Kolokombwa.
At last after the heart break i can have a goood laugh! Hahahahahahah!
Mabbwana let me tell you, ala bonse apa we will die and be burried for millions of years before Zed qualifies to World Cup. We talk too much. Chamz do yourself have solutions? Taukwete bati u just want uku la yumfwisha bwino. Ba Zambia makula and that is the reason why we lost. Big Steve has been saying the truth, include Sinkala and you have been yaba ” What has Sinkala done for Zambia”? He has not lost to Algeria at home, bati your players were put in place. Katongo yaba. You wait and see what will happen in Algeria in September we will be whipped like hell. Somebody grabs your wife in you own home and you expect to grab his in his home, never mune, kabili ninshi no mwenso naukwata
Let us face reality and facts we are staying home from both SA2010 and AFCON, no need to waste money peni ba nurse
Our team selection is crap
Cosidering everything that has been said about our central defence, you guys who get to watch the ZPL, do we have central defenders of height and build in the ZPL that can comfortably fit the role. defenders who wont be easily beaten for pace despite their size??
Amos, I dont think Dennis is very short. Watching him, I think he has some appreciable height a good jump and a good header of the ball. This is why he is even a threat when we are attacking with set pieces. Think about how close shaves he has had even at national level.
As much as we need a lot of height on Central defenders, you will realise that most teams heavily rely on their big strikers to come back and defend set pieces. The Drogbas do this and in conceding the 1st goal we shouldnt just blame the two. Where was gangling Jacob? Either it was just a well orchestrated free kick or we will take it to the coach and say he didnt tell them were to position themselves.
But its already been stated that HR even had put up drawings on the board on how he expected them to respond to the set pieces.
We didnt receive alot of bombardment from the Rwandese, but going by the Egypt game, I dont think height was much of a factor as Dennis Banda handled the aerial threat very well.
What I think lacks in our central defensive partnership is a commanding leader on the pitch. Both Nyambe and Dennis seem to be on the quiet side on the pitch. I look at them and try to envision how you always see the John Terry’s issuing instructions to fellow defenders during play. I think thats what is actually lacking.
SA have recalled Booth primarily for his height. He has done well in cutting out a lot of areial balls in open play and from set pieces. We need height in defence. Not everyone, but at the very least one guy in the central pairing should be big. Jacob must also assist in defending set pieces ala Didier Drogba.
HR has said our team needs more leaders of the field but Ba Tana shows up late, how can he continue as a leader? He is not a good example. I feel also that coaches including Patrick Phiri and HR have never given Chintu enough games, I really don’t know him but he seems like a leader to me.
@FBM
Good one FBM, somebody grabs your wife you expect to grab his…. yaba gentlemen you know how to pick words..
Well mdala, you sound too pessimistic. Each dog has its day and you will be surprised one of these days we will bite… it may actually be in this run.
@Mabbwana
What I think lacks in our central defensive partnership is a commanding leader on the pitch. Both Nyambe and Dennis seem to be on the quiet side on the pitch. I look at them and try to envision how you always see the John Terry’s issuing instructions to fellow defenders during play. I think thats what is actually lacking.
I know you hate me but should say on this one you are right. No leader at all
You know Biggie I am at pain sana fye but let us be realistic , the only leader we have in this team is Mweene and Kalaba, ba Katongo is too silent, takwaba ka pita waba zi kwati menshi elyo ba la ka sabula.
Bane we can only improve if we look critically at performance not the usual story of we played well but…………what have we gained from that “we played well but” and
HH and Kampamba did well at AFCON and should have therefore continued in central defence with the Machine playing on the right and Banda as defensive midfield
I am full of admiration for you guys who have continued ingaging in constructive thought right in the middle of this crisis. I have been completely paralysed since suffering that heart renching defeat on saturday. Atleast i have gathered some measure of strength by reading some motivating contributions from most of you gallant people.
HH and Kapamba are tall. HR is getting a lot money so he should perform
Chintu is a good player. Was at the heart of the defence at under20 in Nigeria. He played on the same team as Sinkala, Gift, Makufi, Emmanuel Zulu etc. That is why Sinkala and him should be atarters in this team, noti ba Feligo “Mr loose the ball all the time” and short wide. Clifford Mulenga, Boyd Mwila, Sinkala, Edwin Phiri need to be recalled. Jonas Sakuwaha should a starter just like William. Out with TP Mazembe or is it now tractor “John Deera” katwishi.
I think we agree that the team needs leadership, back then we had Kalu. But what I see of HR to critise him is that he is also developing his own team and like coaches before him, he seems to see nothing wrong with his boys. But I hope he is bold enough to make changes in the next game. I think Chris must be on the bench. Singuluma has failed to tick so far. I feel Boyd, Signs, Timothy Mbewe needs to be given a chance in the team. Most of you guys want Sinkala, if it is good for the team then let it be. At this stage we have nothing to lose, we just have to throw our cards on the table.
FBM I have been following your comments from yesterday. I will be unfair to you if I fail to acknowledge that you have said some vital things amidist your negative comments. I dont think, we should blame, the coach or the defence or indeed midfielders, this is time to sharpen our Asernals and support aur team more than ever.
The Title ” Not over untill it is over” could not have come at a better time than this. I know we all love our team and want the best out of them but let us not start name calling it will derail us even further. We have fallen for now but this is not all we can bounce back high enough to be at the summit of our group provided we all pull together.
Please guy let us not give up, a lot of national team players read this site let us motivate them.
Chintu is a good player. Was at the heart of the defence at under20 in Nigeria. He played on the same team as Sinkala, Gift, Makufi, Emmanuel Zulu etc. That is why Sinkala and him should be atarters in this team, noti ba Feligo “Mr loose the ball all the time” and short wide. Clifford Mulenga, Boyd Mwila, Sinkala, Edwin Phiri need to be recalled. Jonas Sakuwaha should a starter just like William. Out with TP Mazembe or is it now tractor “John Deera” katwishi
@FBM
I agree with you.Chintu showed leadership even when he came on in the game against Egypt in Cairo and at the AFCON,even HR OBSERVED that.Denis and Nyambe are not bad at all but they lack comand and always flat when under pressure.We could have conceded a goal in the final minutes against Egypt but were a bit on the lucky side which sometimes cannot always be the case as we witnessed on Saturday.
Amos, so we don’t Chintu play?
@Chamz
Yes, it maybe better having a “impact” stricker to come of the bench and maybe good for Chris to sit out a little time. I just say maybe. I think the team that played will be the most fired up to right the ship after that experience. We have to trust in them and i do. If i was coach i’d make one or two changes but i’d field mostly the same squad. i’d look to, but i’d re access closer the time. People want consistency and so do the players.
The first goal was painful as it was a complete lack of concentration. The second was a brilliant goal and i really struggle to draw fault from it. The way they played the central attacker(danger man) distributing the ball for runners was lethal.
Next game must be a friendly, it must be… HR should get a chance to play different players , but all focus must mostly be placed on going forward -scoring goals. Some ideas would varying the pace/gear in advanced positions, drawing defenders out of the box(in fornt of the box) if they are deep, also looking to shoot quicker and it is equally important to make the keeper save or pary the ball… It was a psychological blow on Saturday, remember allot of countries would want a squad like ours, there are things that amaze me. However, in order for us to progress now, we must start doing the things like placing the ball in the goal with ALLOT more frequency. One
I have always said this, but Gametime12 seems to think i just have something against Nyambe and Dennis.Gentlemen, we have the next game as our last chance, lets not compromise it by burying our heads in the sand saying there is nothing wrong with our defense.Yes ofcourse the most important thing we should be looking at right now is how we will score the goals, but what good does it do us if we score two and concede 3? The central defense needs attention, just like the strikeforce.
I won’t argue with you about having a taller and more physical centre backs, i agree, but i will say in this game i thought the pairing was perfect because they possess mobility and speed and that was crucial in this fast pace game and less arial threat. Again the goal was not down to height but down to lack concentration, we needed someone to come meet the short ball…
RWANDA 12pts
ALGERIA 9Pts
EGYPT 7 PTS
ZAMBIA 4 PTS
FINAL TABLE
RWANDA 12pts
LGERIA 9Pts
EGYPT 7 PTS
ZAMBIA 4 PTS
Kigali — JIMMY Gatete returned to the score-sheet in a Rwandan shirt for the first time in over a year as Amavubi Stars put four past an All-Star side led by Cameroon and Barcelona striker Samuel Eto’o.
The charity game that was played last evening at Amahoro was in line with the ‘One Dollar Campaign’, a project aimed at improving the living conditions and social welfare of the survivors of the 1994 Genocide against Tutsis.
Albert Ngabo, Abdul Uwimana and Yussuf Ndayishimiye also went on the score sheet.
Other players on the All-Star team included Rigobert Song (skipper), Didier Drogba, Alexander Song, Yaya Toure, Kolo Toure, Dominique Wazal (USA) and Geremi Njitap.
It was a test of character, fitness and perseverance for the Stars who walked onto the field, just two hours after their long flight from Abidjan, Ivory Coast.
President Paul Kagame, who played a big part in the stars’ coming after footing their travel costs, was part of a full crowd that graced the match played under flood lights.
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The African stars touched down at Kigali International Airport at 4.30pm where they were received by Sports and Culture Minister Joseph Habineza and Ferwafa boss Brig. Gen. Jean Bosco Kazura among other high profile dignitaries.
While other stars headed to Serena for a dinner, Eto’o who has been linked with a move to Manchester City flew back to sort out his future with European Club Champions Barcelona.
The ‘One Dollar Campaign’ is a project that was developed by the Rwandan Diaspora community.
The proceeds collected from the charity game, dinner and sponsors will go to improving the living conditions and social welfare of the survivors.
Compos please from one point to 12 just where do you think you will get the other 11 points? Your country has not even impressed at CECAFA the weakest regional competion in Africa and yet you have the confort in your sleep to dream you will be at SA 2010. It will not happen not even in the next generation.
Even CAF will be surprised that Rwanda will be in Angola. Well for Zambia our eyes are on SA 2010. We have always gone to the africa cup we will go as always.
Correct!
what planet have i landed in? you guys hear yourselves. You gonna win in Algeria, you will beat egypt…. how many players were born in Algeria(I would guess one of the greatest players of modern time is Zidane, france would have given anything to keep him from playing for algeria,so would have Zambia if given a chance” is there a player in Bresil that plays in Bresil? it’s the globalization, you bring the best who are willing to defend your colors. I would guess, it is time to give Cesar what belongs to him, Algeria was a soccer powerhouse and if not for the political troubles of the mid-90, remember , we beat the great Germans in WC82(Fifa changes the rules because of Germany and Austria conspiring against Algeria) and since then , there is no team that won 2 games in world cup groups matches and did not make it to the next Algeria, gave a lesson to Bresil in 86 and guess what we lost that game, because big teams score, even if they get one chance “One shot-One Kill” this is modern footbal, you take all the chances you get and score, if only , well be it. I am sorry Zambia is a young decent team , i wish the best but you still have a long way to go, please do us a favor, do not loose against Egypt
@Seen from afar
You must have watched a different game………..
FACTS..previous qualification for u …
Group 13
7- 9-02 Kampala Uganda 1-0 Ghana
[Philip Obwiny 52]
13-10-02 Accra Ghana 4-2 Rwanda
[Elias Ntaganda 24og, Mohammed Hamza 42,
Charles Taylor 58, Derek Boateng 70pen;
Hassan Milly 16, Hamao Ndijumama 43pen]
29- 3-03 Kigali Rwanda 0-0 Uganda
7- 6-03 Kampala Uganda 0-1 Rwanda
[Jimmy Gatete 40]
22- 6-03 Kumasi Ghana 1-1 Uganda
[Charles Amoah 84; Assani Bajoba 16]
6- 7-03 Kigali Rwanda 1-0 Ghana
[Jimmy Gatete 49]
1.RWANDA 4 2 1 1 4- 4 7
2.Uganda 4 1 2 1 2- 2 5
3.Ghana 4 1 1 2 5- 5 4
we alwayz start slow as we gain momentum..GO GO GOOO amavubi U WILL SUPRISE THEM…
Group 3
8- 9-02 Cotonou Benin 4-0 Tanzania
[Anicet Adjamounsi 9, 38, Oumar Tchomogo 75pen,
Moussa Latoundji 85]
8- 9-02 Khartoum Sudan 0-1 Zambia
[Chaswe Nsfowa 89]
12-10-02 Mwanza Tanzania 1-2 Sudan
[Abdallah Rajab 17; Jasten Lado 27, Khalid Mussa 55]
12-10-02 Lusaka Zambia 1-1 Benin
[Rotson Kilambe 75; Wassion Oladikpikpo 45]
29- 3-03 Dar es Salaam Tanzania 0-1 Zambia
[Meshack Lungu 25]
29- 3-03 Khartoum Sudan 3-0 Benin
[Tambal 35, 70, Kabir 68]
7- 6-03 Lusaka Zambia 2-0 Tanzania
[Harry Milanzi 44, 81]
8- 6-03 Cotonou Benin 3-0 Sudan
[Omar Tchmogo 55pen, 72, Moure Ogoudiyi 90]
21- 6-03 Lusaka Zambia 1-1 Sudan
[Songwe Chalwe 72; Abedi Dalag 23]
22- 6-03 Dar es Salaam Tanzania 0-1 Benin
[Moussoro Kabirou 66]
6- 7-03 Cotonou Benin 3-0 Zambia
[Omar Tchomogo 9, 26, Moussa Latoundji 75]
6- 7-03 Omdurman Sudan n/p Tanzania [Tanzania withdrew]
1.BENIN 6 4 1 1 12- 4 13
2.Zambia 6 3 2 1 6- 5 11
3.Sudan 5 2 1 2 6- 6 7
4.Tanzania 5 0 0 5 1-10 0
Anonymous I still think our defense is good, We did not play that game to defend. I’m sure if We had scored first our priorities would have changed. All these defenders you are naming have played before and We never been to the world cup. There was no way we could have defended that set piece, even the goal keeper himself was lost. Egyptian Defenders are taller than ours but they allowed two set pieces in Algeria. May be its time you admit that Algeria is brilliant when it comes to set pieces. The second goal was a counter, nobody knew what they were doing when the Algerians attacked us at full speed. Even Mbola was chasing a ghost. I don’t see why you guys are failing to admit that you lost, even Italy lost. You don’t have to change the team every time you lose. Go on try Sinkala and squad will see if we will even be able to beat Rwanda with the same old guys that have been failing to make a mark the entire time they played for the national team.
@Gametime12
THOSE Algerians COUNT ATTACK FAILED IN KIGALI they hammered u 2-0 WE ARE USED TO beating Arabs.ask MORROCCO last year they got a 3-1 in kigali…….u ZAMBIANS u have been underestimating RWANDA but 4 sure u were very lucky we didnt attack u in ZAMBIA…but wait we will teach u a lesson here in kigali and qualify for the 1st ever WC in SA…
My dear Algerians and Rwandese on this blog. Good to hear from you. I am glad last week’s insults have stopped. Both Rwanda and Algeria came to Zambia and had no complaints in the way, they were treated by officials and fans, hotels etc. I hope you treat our team well in your countries.
Algeria has not qualified yet, the race is very open. Yes Algeria have had a perfect start but unless you are new to football, it would be foolish to think you are in 2010. As for Rwanda making to Angola will be a miracle.
This is how it will end:
Chipolopolo: 13
Desert Foxes: 10-they will lose to Zambia and in Cairo. They will beat Rwanda.
Pharoars: 10
Wasps: 1.
Zambia will then go on to win the Africa Cup in Angola.
@campos
First Morroco isn’t Algeria
Secundo sure u ‘ll be first (with 18pts with a charity of caf & Fifa)to go to SA.
Tercio we wish u good luck in your dreams…
Campos-the reaspn why Algeria and Rwanda draw 0-0 is because Rwanda was defending in Kigali, the same way they did in Zambia. Zambia was attacking. Rwanda and Iraq are the same. Just defend. Angola did the same in the World Cup. Yes you will end up with 0-0 games but you will never win. Did you see how Rwanda started attacking when Zambia scored?
Rwanda will end up like Iraq without scoring a goal in this tournament.
Zambia will beat Algeria 3-0 in Blid. Hammer Rwanda 3-0 in Kagali and beat Egpty 2-0 at home end up with 13 points. Algeria will only beat Rwanda at home.
I am resubmitting my post from the 22nd. I still do not understand the naysayers.
There is a FIFA day in August. This is the only time Zambia can have all the players. Clubs are not obliged to release players on days, which are not FIFA days. I agree with have not played friendly games. But if we play games now or any other day, we are only going to feature local players. After the Cairo game, on Wedneday was a FIFA day. Honesly how did you expect the team to play another game. The next FIFA day was a weekend before the Rwanda game, the Zambian team was still waiting for players-remember Chris, Fwayo, Mayuka, Jacob and other regulars joined camp late. Meaning had we played, we still going to be missing players. I am not defending FAZ, I am just being realistic. After all we played Iran, Tunisia last year, so lets not like they can organise games. I think we are looking for scapegoats for the Algeria defeat. We lost because we could not score. In August, I expect FAZ to arrange a game in North Africa, I am sure the local players will be in camp then. I have not given up hope. Never say never.
Even if FIFA made an exception for you to be playing with 22 players instead of 11 Rwanda would still not top the group. Get real with your hopes they are way out of reality.
100, 000 people, the better. How many people were in Cairo? We draw in Cairo, beat Ivory Coast (local players) 3-0 at home, beat SA 3-1 in Cape Town before thousands. Zambia will take advantage of Algeria over confidence. One thing for sure Egpyt will not lose at home.
Campos to tell you the truth Rwanda is in this to fulfill the fixture. This is what my brother said when Rwanda played against Zambia, Rwanda is just in this to disturb. I agreed with him on that, Rwanda was defending at their own home ground.
Vincent our coach is undecided, today Singuluma, 2moro Mbesuma, the day after Jacob, then Kola, Mayuka why can’t he find out
Talk sense iwe
And u think Algeria are that foolish
@Gesh
We claim that Zambia is one of the rare teams that show fair-play even in defeat in africa We would most likely return the favour.We will treat well the Chipolopolo but we’ll beat you again.
@Ba Muzo
We claim Zambia is one of the rare teams that show fair-play even in defeat in africa We would most likely return the favour.We will treat well the Chipolopolo but we’ll beat you again.
@kayula
You do nothing in Algeria, We beat you again
@FBM
FBM because none of these strikers have been able to score.
Farid laugh while you can
Chamz, you are still here with your foolish bla bla .. Do you have a life ?
I watched all the games, not in high quality, but i watched all the games. You have no argument anyway. You just blame Nyambe and Dennis for the Chan Semi-final. . Not very constructive…
Who are you anyway Hlexi, i’ve not seen you much here, you might be Algerian for all we know?
Interesting what you say about Algeria being a football powerhouse…It is a shame that domestic instability led to an exodus of Algerians to Europe. Otherwise Algeria and Africa would’ve benefited from continued success.
As for Zambia winning in Algeria, why not? We’re not saying its easy, but it can be done.
ok i ve read enough, this board is starting to look really sad, you r like a bunch of sore pathetic losers patting each other on the back whining and bitching about your loss and chances in this competition. yes mathematically it’s still possible but realistically?? let me put it this way you better focus on securing a spot in AFCON Algeria just dashed and left you in the dust; instead you rationalize the loss by burrying your heads in the sand refusing to review hte core issues while still not acknowledging Algeria as a football nation to be reckoned with, arrogance and willful ignorance will be your downfall and what the hell is up with your continuous poorly disguised disrespect towards its people and colonial past? it’s really laughable us africans still playing right in the hands of the ‘MAN’ ..u can go on about whom is born where fact remains these are Algerians born to Algerians proud to play for Algeria but for what it’s worth only a handfull have dual nationalities but SO WHAT? france and algeria’s past and future are intertwined for eons to come instead of making excuses for your shortcomings u should zip it and start overcoming them, there’s no luck in FOOTBALL luck would be a sudden breeze pushing the ball in the net for YOU…22 players shape up the game on the pitch so if the ball gets to a point X, is because, player A clash with player B from opposing side, made it so…
IS THAT YOUR RESPONSE TO REASON? I HAVE SAID NOTHING ABOUT CHAN SEMI-FINAL.
ANYWAY,WHETHER YOU HAVE SEEN ME MUCH OR NOT ON THIS FORUM IS NOT THE PIONT.AND IF I WAS AN ALGERIAN FAN I’D NOT BE WASTING MY TIME ON A ZAMBIAN SITE.LETS STICK TO FOOTBALL, NO NEED FOR PERSONAL ATTACKS…
My Algeria brothers, just ignore this boy Chamz. He doesnt have a life. He doesnt have anything to do.
@Chamz
MY FRIEND CHAM..U WILL BE SURPRISED…DID U SEE HOW WE STARTED ATTACKING THE CHIPOROPOLO …For u info we have never lost at AMAHORO STADIUM…FOR AWAY GAMES WE WILL TRY A POINT BUT NOT AT HOME…AT HME WE ATTACK as if there s no 2morrow…WE will christiano Ronaldo …..
@Chamz
MY FRIEND CHAM..U WILL BE SURPRISED…DID U SEE HOW WE STARTED ATTACKING THE CHIPOROPOLO …For u info we have never lost at AMAHORO STADIUM…FOR AWAY GAMES WE WILL TRY A POINT BUT NOT AT HOME…AT HME WE ATTACK as if there s no 2morrow…WE will christiano Ronaldo …..for zambians with u defence ..u will finish at the bottom…
algeria paly zambia in 5juillet stadiaum et not a blida
i am from algeria i think that algeria must play world cup in june2010 in south africa and zambia play with us african cup in angola
@Hlexi
Ok bruv, we’ll do that.
GUYS! Zambian football is in crisis , How the Zambian football federation will finance the zambian team to camp in North Africa? from where they will bring Money!
Be realistic ! no stadium , no hotel …
I heard that the zambian Coach Mr RENARD had problems with the zambian football federation and with fans! regarding his contract ?
I Think it is better to the Zambian to focus in the qualification to the African Cup rather than take a risk to underestimate the algerians and think to beat Algeria !
Algerian, I have said many times, your team has not qualified yet. Ask Spain, Italy. You are expecting Zambia to give up? No.
Colleagues,
Zambia is out of the world cup race. It can only be a foolish algeria to give up such a comfortable lead half the games played. Beating Egypt 3-1, Zambia 2-0 at home, and drawing 1-1 with rwanda in kigali, is clear evidence that they are a formidable side, and anyone who is still underating them is failing to come to terms with reality.
Actually, Zambia is in danger of not even qualifying to Angola, if something is not done about the blunt strike force. In Kigali, a loss is now more probable as no one will score while Rwanda as we saw at Konkola seem to have a decent strike force Zambia was luck on the day. In Algiers, for now the fixture favours Algeria in all respects.
When Egypt come in October, it will depend on how they would have faired against Rwanda and Algeria. If they are in contention, then we should brace ourserlves for another debacle at Konkola. Besides, Egypt has players of renowned capability and on their day, they could be lethal. We are in real danger here colleagues and let us not sugar coat our comments in the name of patrotism.
Lets go boys we will do it this time, i will owes support my Zambia win or lose……….
lol
The key is friendlies with good teams not Pirartes reserves. Any body remember how crispy the post Gabon team was after camping in europe ?
Thats the truth most of us dont wanna admit bro
People people, in this information world we now live in there is nothing like KALU contacts. One can simply go to a website and make arrangements for friendlies. I am not looking down upon Great Kalu but actually saying we would be expecting to much from him if we think his contacts would advantage as in anyway as judging from the time he took over, his contacts have nothing to show for. What we need are resources like what is happening now with Corporates coming to the fold(i hope not to just please RB but sustainably so). As for FAZ, we shouldn’t sit on our laurels and just concentrate on the National Team. Let”s see the benefits spreading to the local league as teams are barely surviving(FAZ remember these are the guys you campaigned from and benefits of that should be seen). Club administrators should also wake up and think strategically-don’t just look at player allowances but infrastructure etc. As for soccer fans noti bu serial critic chabe(By the way i am just from doing a bank transfer to homour my monthly pledge of K500,000 to Nkana while still trying to figure out what else we can do-from here i an\m meeting some Nkana supporters to try to resusitate what we had put in place before my departure for TZ). Akasuba Ba Dinamo indi pa Nkoloma and on 0977781007-please let’s meet napapata. Mailo am back to SA and back to TZ on 4th July-hectic schedule. To all other Devils/Kalampas, let’s help our team
@remember porterfield
hi
i think in this blog yu’re the only one logical….let it come and we shall see at last…
i wish a good luck to everybody even if i’m algerian and i like my country to be the first qualified to sa2010…So now in the second step it will depend on the psychological state of each team.. the future will tell us…..
friendly
@Chamz we will see Chamz!