February 26, 2009
The Chipolopolo Boys of Zambia and the Teranga Lions of Senegal played to a barren draw in their Group A clash at the ongoing maiden edition of the African Nations Championship (CHAN) on Wednesday at the Felix Houphouet Boigny Stadium.
The result keeps the Zambians at the summit of the group standings on four points, same as Senegal but on superior goals.
And East African representative Tanzania stunned and eliminated host Ivory Coast from the tournament via a 1-0 victory.
The clash which pitted the two winning sides of the opening day failed to live up to expectations with both teams displaying an output unusual of the opening day.
The match was characterized by midfield action with both teams making rare attempts at goal.
Zambia’s hat-trick hero, Given Singuluma was eclipsed by the Senegal rear and was more of a passer-by throughout his stay in the before being replaced by Stanley Banda in the latter stages.
Senegal was however the dominant side possession-wise but their quest to break the deadlock was dealt a major blow with the dismissal of Ndiour Babacar eight minutes from time.
Mabbwana on Zambia v Senegal match
Tanzania have beaten IC by a goal. Unexpectedly it gives us a lot of work to do in the final game. We stretched the Ivory C oast defence by effectively using our wingers.
Senegal were smart by not allowing their full backs to push up. This effectively closed out Henry & Sakuwaha as much limiting our chances. Their physical dominance in midfield made it difficulty for Wiliam & Hachipuka to dominate.
The worry is our lack of a plan B, but the goodnes is there is no other team relying on physical aspect as much as Senegal.
Dreadlocked winger Traore Mamadou masterminded several raids into the Zambian half but the defensive set built around veteran Elijah Tana remained resolute.
Tana, who missed the opening match against Cote D’Ivoire proved his worth with several timely clearances during the heated clash.
Whisper thinks Kennedy Mudenda’s speed can help change the formation. Mudenda usually drifts inside from the left wing and that can allow Nyambe Mulenga overlap as the opposing right back will be keeping an eye on Mudenda whilst the Power Dynamos man cuts inside.
Whisper on why Kennedy Mudenda should start
I am not criticizing, but merely stating that this might be a reason Jonas and Henry didn’t get into the game today. If they were playing against a midfielder and a full back then they were simply outnumbered.
Finally, finally I know we need to keep the door shut at the back, but our full backs hardly crossed the halfway line. I know that we need to keep the door closed at the back, but if they don’t support the attack then it is difficult for the wingers to really penetrate.
Nyambe actually found himself in the final third for the first time, simply because Mudenda had pulled the right full back out of position.
Mudenda has got to play. I think Henry did alright, but he didn’t run at his full back enough. When Mudenda came on, the pace of our attacks increased by 100%.
The guy runs at people and is full of energy, he works across the pitch and his marker didn’t know whether to go with him or stay home, this created some space for others to run into. Just watch the game from when he came on.
Zambia will play Tanzania in their final Group match on Saturday, whilst Senegal faces host Cote D’Ivoire.
Quotes
Herve Renard (Coach, Zambia)
“I simply did not know what went wrong with my team. I am disappointed with their output.
“We lost everything technically, mentally and physically; but the most important thing is we grabbed a point. We shall put in our all in the last match against Tanzania.”
Joseph Koto (Coach, Senegal)
“We lost two valuable points and it’s not good for a course. We were the best team, created many chances but couldn’t hit the back of the net.
“The final game is decisive, and we hope to make the most it.”
Zambia line up
Kaumbwa- Mubanga (Dennis Banda 67’), Kasonde (Tana 45’), Chilufya, Nyambe- Sakuwaha, Njobvu, Hachipuka, H. Banda- Lwipa, Singuluma (S.Banda)
132 Comments on "Tanzania stun Ivory Coast…Zambia, Senegal share spoils"
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Uncle Bobs on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 6:43 AM
Bane,
Thank God we didn’t lose as we were over-shadowed by Senegal mostly physically as they didn’t give us chance to express our skills. They simply came with a plan for us. Credit to our defence (plus keeper)that held their own. Again we are back kunsamushi and we can only under-rate Tanzania at our own peril, but it’s very achievable as physical strength won’t be at play and we’ll be able to express our game. Can’t wait to here our two Tanzanian brothers coming wave afyer wave in a counter attack as Dennis Liwewe would say it in those old days (sorry guys, not my fault that i am a donisaur like Ba Jaggari and Ba Justice, it is just a fact!!!)
nyerere on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 6:55 AM
This is exactly what i want, let them be overconfident and underestimate tanzania then we will show them what we are capable of, get ready for surprise my zambians brothers.
Dinamo on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 7:34 AM
Gents the Senegalese strategy was to put more men in midfield & play long balls which they easily won b’coz of their height & physic.When we tried to settle down & play our usual game the Teranga Lions intimidated our boys as they pushed them aside with all sorts of crude tackles.This killed our champaign football as we were left with no option but to adopt their style of long balls which made them dominate the game.In the process our defenders got tired as they were kept busy almost the entire match.HR had to bring in Tana for Kasonde & D Banda for Mubanga as a way of keeping our backline with fresh legs .With our chances of scoring looking slim due to Senegal’s physic style that closed our game HR had to rest his most prized player (Singuluma) & encouraged his lads to hold on to the barren draw.With Tanzania beating IC in a match that came later we need atleast a draw to qualify to the semis.In this game,Zambia need to play its usual game & utilize the wings to feed the Golden boot contender Singuluma.Obviously Tanzania are are going to study our IC game so maybe HR should start with a diffrent treaky winger(either Mudenda or Simon Bwalya) & rest either Sakawuha or H. Banda in order to refresh our attack
Mphatso on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 7:50 AM
I agree with Dinamo, the Senegalese were physically strong, taller making them win most of aerial tussles and completely dominated the midfield thereby limiting Zambias progress upfront. The game against Tanzania will be open and quick, but less physical, if we dont underrate Tanzania, I am confident we can beat them. Besides we just need a point to qualify.
Georgia Russia on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 8:00 AM
gentlemen,we were not out of form.senegal tok advantage of small bodies and hieght.it killed us a lot,the boys could have done alot more but that aspect made there game diffuclt.we still stand chance of making it to the semi final and let the boys stick to thier usual game.
Georgia Russia on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 8:05 AM
i rate mulenga nymabe as having been the best players in that game.
Tanzanite on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 8:08 AM
Dear our Neigbhors…
Here we come to get 3points from You.
Ngasa & Mgosi gonna give it to you!
Spaks on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 8:09 AM
Having watched the first half one would have noticed that indeed we were over powered and even though we could have utilised speed to solve this problem the sub never came, i expected mudenda to come on for Henry as yesterday he was out of sorts, we were lucky not to have conceded so to the keeper and the backline bravo, i only hope we will change our strategy, Hachipuka is too slow on the ball and was caught out many a time.
Tanzanite on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 8:11 AM
By the way…All CHAN matches are shown by Tanzania Broadcasting Corporation (TBC) Channel 143 on DSTV.
Spaks on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 8:16 AM
Forgive me for being controversial but why does Stanley Banda get to play??
Uncle Bobs on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 8:26 AM
Tazanite,
Only us in Tanzania can watch from TBC as it is restricted to Tanzania just like ZNBC (Zambian) is restricted to Zambia if you may wish to know!!!
Ba Dinamo u are very right, but physical stature can also be used to advantage if like you say, shorties/lighties keep possession and avoid long balls at all cost (Ba Zoom used this to the maximum using Soko and Kapambwe/Changwe as pick-up points from the keeper to draw opponents thereby opening spaces for midfielders to pick up). Jose Pekerman the Ex-Los Albicelestes (Argentina) coach also believed in this concept and favoured shorties (Mascherano, Messi, Tevez, Maxi Lopez, Pablo Aimar etc.) and it has since worked. But in our case we tend to lack Plan B when faced with physique and height. Ball control was another minus yesterday as twaleteya notoni sana (aerial).
Uncle Bobs on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 8:27 AM
Tazanite,
Maybe TBC may also be available to other East African countries.
BA MUZO on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 8:31 AM
Coach Renard????????????????????????????????????????????
Sibs. on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 8:35 AM
A big up to the boys for holding their own against our “Mandigo” brothers. I am sure we will do well against the Tanzanians.The key is to finish top of the group.I hope HR had a chance to watch & sturdy the Taifa Stars.
Vincent Numbwa on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 8:44 AM
We were lucky to draw with Senegal. The IC and TZ game was by far the better game. TZ scored a beauty and were very fast on the ball a thing we failed to against Senegal with Hachi irritatingly slow.
We need to work hard against TZ and make use of our wings effectively and allow our left and right back players to over lap a little bit so we can have the numbers needed when in attack.
Big Steve from SA on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 8:45 AM
It seems we are unable to change strategy in the course of a game. Basically we have no plan B. We go into a game with one strategy and even if it does not work we just stick it out with the same strategy until the end. How could we have gone into this game with exactly the same game plan we had against IC. The Senegalese coach must have even been surprised that the tactics used in a video he obviously watched and studied were the exact same ones applied again. He knew just what to do, lucky for us we still came out of it with a point. We need to have three of even four game plans going into any game, we need to have a plan B. It was expected the Senegalese would be physical, what was our plan on this approach, seems like we didn’t have any and now we want to comfort ourselves with the knowledge that they are the only team that uses a physical approach, The Taranga lions might know this and just choose to do the same, what then?? We need secondary game plans that can be implemented in the course of a game.
Anyway congrats to the boys for keeping the dream alive, a point when under pressure is still a something to be proud of and we still have a very good chance and still top our group. Again congrats!!
F-15 on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 8:47 AM
No ill felings. The senegales studied our game and u could see that they were makin it hard 4 zambia to play the ball on the ground.
Big Steve from SA on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 8:48 AM
Well I am still celebrating Liverpool walking over R/Madrid.
Spaks on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 8:52 AM
Can i be controversial again, who can you attribute to the 3-0 wins both against RSA and IC? is it the coach or personal conviction of the players? my take on RSA it was personal conviction on the part of Katongo as an Honour to our late Chaswe ‘Mila’Nsofwa, and same goes for Given,the chap simply took it personal not that he was instructed what to do
Mabbwana on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 8:52 AM
After watching TZ, i think we hav a game on our hands. I think they hav been a consistent unit in the 2 games dspite losing their opener. Its like the boys went into this game and wer jst stunned to find that their opposition wer big guys, I mean so stunned that they even failed to string meaningful passes. I like the idea of spicing up our attack with Mudenda. Unfortunately Nyambe is no threat going forward & neither is Mubanga and unfortunately Kebby might be too slow to cover the spaces.
Natkan on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 8:54 AM
hey Zambia vs Senegal game was boring i wonder what those guys where doing on the pitch. if thats the way we are going to play against TZ then lets count ourselves out coz TZ is HOT.
Now this reminds me of what happened in the last AFCON & CECAFA. the first game that Zambia played won, the second game Zambia draw and the third game Zambia lost, so when you look at this critically it even tells you where we are going and what is going to happen when we meet TZ.
Anyway, i can only wish Chipolopolo Boys all the best in there last game. hope we wont start doing some calculations, if that team wins then we are going thru or if that team loses then we will qualify with our superior goal difference. Nooooo we don’t want that any more.
chamwe kaira in Windhoek on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 9:01 AM
We only need a draw against TZ and then put our efforts on Semi. Tanzania will be forced to play an open game since they need to win. People that is football. I saw Brazil in 1994 and 2002, playing less convincing football but winning the cup. Zambia will beat Tanzania.
TZ boy on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 9:02 AM
we are waiting for you guys and we gonna kill you as nuch as we can firts we gonna put aside the brother hood as you know we get fantastic and youthfull and strong team coz we eat too much inshima chipo they will be our punching bag hahaha tz 2 chipo 1
chamwe kaira in Windhoek on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 9:43 AM
Guys from the picture above, don’t you agree that Nyambe Henry Mulenga is using Jaribu?
Smm-soJ on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 9:44 AM
there was nothing boring about yestday’s match … each game is different from the other and so the tempo of the match is determined by many factors … Zambia and Tanzania are both great teams that can do wonders … being a supporter of Zambia i put a “win” on Zambia and a “loss” on Tanzania as they meet this saturday, of course a draw will still be good for Zambia. it is said from the terances you see more mistakes than when on the pitch … football is an interesting game … remember some games involving Egypt versus Malawi, South Africa versus Swaziland, Ghana versus Burundi, they all resulted in the big teams’ defeat. only after 90+ minutes can you say the result before then it is called prediction or hope … so lets analyse with this understanding … if the same HR’s team beat senegal which was very possible … am sure comments would have been different … so it is possible to have ‘shifting’ analysts! once gaian i bless Zambia as they take on Tanzania … Go Chipolopolo … Go and make new records for yourself …. Go succeed …. finally and above all the Good LORD bless our republic Zambia with peace, joy and grace regardless of the result in Jesus’ blessed name!
Elly on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 9:50 AM
Tz are hot guyz they gona hummer the chipolopolo. Take care then
Sibs. on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 10:00 AM
Guys from Tz good to have you on the site. We can only wait for Sat to see what happens.
Topstriker-Tz on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 10:00 AM
Taifa stars has gained confidence now, they can take any team in this competition. As Tanzania, I think Tz players will not care anymore about defending their goal, instead it will be an attack strategy from the beginning. I think ivory coast will try hard to get consolation win against senegal if that happen i see zambia going through too on gola difference, but Tanzania is definately through to next stage.
Chips, RSA on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 10:04 AM
Tanzania will either draw with zambia or lose 1-0 or 2-1. IC will beat senegal 2-0 and it will be Zambia and TZ qualifying to the next round. This is zambia’s moment. the team will not lose any match it will go all the way to lifting the trophy.
chamwe kaira in Windhoek on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 10:17 AM
Senegal and Zambia are going through to face Ghana or Dr Congo
Topstriker-Tz on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 10:42 AM
The host, IC have gone out so early. I think next games will have less and less spectators. I dont knw how this will affect players. I think it is from competition were we should select best players of the year for Africa and not african players playing in Europe. Or may be call it a different name, best players for incontinent/indoor/CAF…Whatever, but giving our players chance to be awarded.
jc on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 10:48 AM
yesterday’s game, the senegalese exposed Zambia for who we are, pretenders. The team was awful and only luck saved Zambia. This mediocre display is what we have come to associate the chipolopolo in the last five years. Many fans could not believe it that Zambia had beaten IC 3-0. To many it looked like a fluke. Trully, if yesterdays display is anything to go by, our team is a fluke indeed. I put my money on Tanzania and this is another remiander of the CECAFA debacle, starting with a fluke and then fading. The Senegal game is also a pointer of what to expect against Egypt and clearly some players are only splashes in the pan, like Hachipuka, his slowness in midfield is a disaster. He should not play in the qualifiers. Sakuwaha also cannot change to different situations and once shutout,cannot think. Our marking is also awful to say the least. our team does not know how to close down opponents, and against Egypt you pay a big price.
Whisper on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 12:09 PM
Hi guys,
Just to say that in the piece above, I was commenting on the game vs CIV not Senegal. I haven’t been able to watch the game against Senegal yet. I don’t think the CIV game was really something to write home about, I followed it on this site and was given the impression that we totally outclassed them, this wasn’t the case.
In that game we didn’t move the ball quickly enough on the ground and our passing out of defence wasn’t the best either. We tend to launch the ball out of defence, even against CIV and rely on picking up the second ball.
We were conservative and our wingers didn’t really terrorise their full backs (Jonas did more than Henry) in the way it was reported by guys on here. As mentioned above, it was only when Mudenda came on that we started moving the ball quicker and pulling the CIV defence around. The guy was popping up on the right and in the middle and creating space for others to move into.
I think Renard is a conservative coach and believes on keeping the defence tight, I would like to see him allow the guys a bit more freedom against TZ.
I am hoping to watch the Senegal game tonight, I’ll try to offer some insight into what I believe went well and what didn’t go as well.
nsomba on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 12:12 PM
Imwe ba swahili siba ziba bola nima kula ba ziba che tamanga .To be honest i am not worried about the tanzanians .The played a dejected ivorian side thanks to us beating the ivorians beyond repair.We will wallop the taifa `s .The tanzanian can talk up their team up as much as possible but we all know come rain come sunshine the taifas are not on our level qualfying for tournaments every 30yrs is nothing worth writing home about . The big question is of winning the group and avoiding group B leaders
chamwe kaira in Windhoek on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 12:13 PM
Zambia will beat Tanzania.
vipack on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 12:13 PM
I agree with chips, TZ will fall.where are our neighbours drawing the confidence of beating zambia from? 1-o over IC? let us wait and see what will happen on suturday.Please do not cry when we bash you 5-0!
i like TZ they are our good neighbours.
BOURNE on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 12:18 PM
i am starting to think too that Chipolopolo just never want to qualify on Merit…even when the chance is there for the taking…
always have to wait for the last game…how do other countries do it…??
Good luck with the Tanzania Game..hope all goes well
Justice Kafusha on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 12:37 PM
Vin we played a good game Vs IC as well. Tanzania had a lot of problems Vs Senegal, while we dreww they were beaten. This shows we are better than Tanzania some how. While we pumped 3 Vs IC they only managed one. We are going to beat Tanzania no doubt.
DaMwiinger on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 12:41 PM
Whisper, which feed did you use to watch the CIV game. I haven’t seen either games either so would like to see for myself.
Big up Zamfoot for the DVDs offer. I will hola shortly. Hope many guys here will do the same.
Justice Kafusha on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 12:42 PM
I agree with you on Hachipuka, I do not even understand how he was picked as captain. A captain should be the best player in the team. The guy is very slow and does not impress me. The solution is to let Kasonde play in the defensive midfield
DaMwiinger on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 12:46 PM
@Whisper
Can you give me the stream you used to watch the games? I haven’t watched them either and would like to see for myself.
CHISUMA on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 1:09 PM
Just a question? Do people still think Singuluma can cut it against the pharoahs after the evidence of yesterday. He is definitely inexperienced compared to collins Mbesuma. Mbesuma would still be the first name on my team sheet no matter how slow. We saw how we struggle against big teams so it has to be Mbesuma for Egypt and Singuluma to come later. If we start we Singuluma he will be easily contained. Guys we are talking about higher level football not CHAN championship which excludes overseas players. Any thoughts?
halima on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 1:11 PM
Hi guys of Zambia you gonna cry on saturday. TZ guys is so hot take care
Mwakalebela on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 1:18 PM
Good luck Tanzanians,that’s surprise indeed! back to next game vs Chippo,we are confident for final!
Justice Kafusha on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 1:27 PM
We have 29 days before we play Egypt and I still do not know who will score our goals. Singuluma with better Midfielders like Kalaba, Chris, Chansa and support from Katongo and Jacob can do the job. About Mbesuma I really do not know
Justice Kafusha on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 1:29 PM
Yes we shall cry tears of joy, but for you it will be a funeral
lee on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 1:49 PM
I watch all the matches on anumber of local stations. ORTM(Mali), RTS(Senegal), RTI(Cote D’ivoire). Zambia was pathetic. The sooner we romove Herve Renard the better. I have seen Zambia play better football with PP, than this Frenchman’s team. There was no tactical formation. The Zambia Players are bunch of weakling. That number 10 Njovu was way off form and I wondered why Herve kept him for whole 90 minutes. Singuluma had no service, as the Midfiled was completely off duty.
Tanzania is likely to liminate us if we deploy the same system of chipantepante..
I have never seen such free kick taking..That Njovu boy suprised me, I dont know if he is a regular free kick taker. All his shots were way off..
DaMwiinger on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 2:11 PM
@Whisper
Thanks mate. I tried to register yesterday, my password didn’t come through. Did it today and I now have it. I will watch and give my analysis.
chamwe kaira in Windhoek on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 2:14 PM
Lee on Saturday you will saying HR is the best. I don’t understand Zambians. The team has not lost in two games, IC is out. We are on top. What more do you want? Thats football, even Real lost at home, Barca struggled
Whisper on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 2:30 PM
Guys, things didn’t go our way, but we recorded a draw. We are still in with a better than average chance of making it to the next stage. Our performances aren’t vintage, but let’s wait and see what transpires on Saturday. As I said above, I think it will be very interesting to see what happens if we go a goal down. Will the team abandon it’s defencive principles? It would be good to see our full backs getting forward and supporting the wingers. That is the way that you get width into your attacks.
Alex on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 2:32 PM
Friday njikata saturday chipolopolo sunday malilo ya taifa. Ivory coast is just inexperienced on goal, having watched them they were the better of the two but poor finishing. Tanzania are now over confident which is better for us. Tana was really a missing pillar. Weelee.! Mudenda for henry on sat.
Smm-soJ on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 2:35 PM
@Kalikwikwiti worry not keep you hope in place no matter how many times you have been disappointed. better to die with hope than hopeless… thanks great man and stay blessed. the Cecafa repeat is possible but unlikely to be the case this time around. ‘better die with hope
Smm-soJ on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 2:42 PM
dearest friend, i totally, completetly, fully refuse to prepare for defeat, only hopeless people prepare for defeat, as for me and my countrymen we shall always prepare for victory … as for you who has room in your heart for defeat … we release you to the same defeat …
chamwe kaira in Windhoek on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 2:43 PM
Please undestand the excited Tanzanians, to them CHAN is like World CUP-this is a big stage for them.
Whisper on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 2:57 PM
Yaba, we have been invaded!! These Tanzanians are coming on here in hoards. I guess they don’t have the equivalent of zedfootball that side? Maybe they have a TZdistancerunning or TZmasaijumping instead?
Guys, just to say lets keep upbeat. We know that some players visit this site, we need to encourage them not bring them down. We are topping the group and have a good chance of going into the semis. I believe that Renard (or maybe even the players themselves) looked at the first 15 mins yesterday and thought, ‘the best thing is not to get beaten here. Men, get behind the ball.’
Topstriker-Tz on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 3:08 PM
Sorry guys. Do you mean this chat room/comments is only for Zambian. Ok, i will leave you to discuss your matter. I thought you will accept others views.
Vincent Numbwa on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 3:22 PM
Zamfoot and fellow soccer fans I need help guys to understand the term commetators often use for BLACK AFRICAN teams that ” tails up” or sometimes “Tails between there legs”
I have listened to the above phrases several times especially at the world cup and all the times in reference to black african teams. I honestly get offended as I feel the terms are racist and an indirect way of referring to Black Africans as monkeys as they are the ones with tails. The tails up phrase was used twice even in the TZ /IC game.
Smm-soJ on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 3:26 PM
@Topstriker-Tz Topstriker … Zambia & Tanzania are brothers and will always be … families from both nations have bonded and can never be seperated …. remember TAZARA? TAZAMA? of course each person’s views should be respected especially when it comes to issues like football … do not withdraw from this chat line … its funny .. it is for you and us all … for now Viva Mighty Zambia … God bless us all. shalom for now. Go Zambia. go and conquer all in your path. go boys and do wonders …
Luapula Fish on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 3:34 PM
I personally do not feel starting with Mudenda was a best solution to dominate the senegalese and create enough scoring chances.Though I conquer with Mabwana that his high pace and work rate was going to make a good difference.
The practicle solution would have been the Poulsen formation,drop one winger into deep midfield and power your way through one wing.This will also create enough working chances on the other party of the wing coz of high concentration of difending on the wing being exploited.And usually you exploit the wing with a weakfull back.
Whisper on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 3:55 PM
Topstriker-Tz, sorry I didn’t mean to offend. I made the comment as more of a joke, than to say that you should leave us alone. Please keep posting, differing opinions is why we are all addicted to this site. Once again sorry.
Vincent, when someone refers to a group as having their ‘tails up’it means that they are energised. Like how meerkats and mongoose behave. The saying is derived from how animals behave, however, I have heard this saying used in other football games and sports where whites are playing.
Uncle Bobs on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 3:57 PM
TZ BOY
Being a Zambian living in Tanzania now, i can tell you that Zambians eat more nshima than Tanzanians who have so many alternatives to Nshima-wali (rice) na nyama with muchuzi, chips mayayi, nyama choma, indizi na kuku wa fry etc. In Zambia 90% of the time we have FOOD (Inshima) and the rest (NOT FOOD IN OUR VOCABULARY!!) is 10%.
TOP STRIKER
Wewe rafiki, ninini, don’t be a coward and whatever has been said is just a figure of speech. Even i get people calling me “MU ZAMBIA” i dont’t chicken out but accept it as part of life. If you go away, then yu are a coward but i know you are not, so i expect to see you back. Sawa sawa!!!
Georgia Russia on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 4:21 PM
feel free to comment my gud friend from tz,but we shall clobber u on saturday,am sure u feel like u playing at the world cup,hehehehe dnt worry wok hard and u will go to afcon one day.
@Topstriker-Tz
Shidada Namibia on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 4:42 PM
My mum was from TZ, my dad Zambian. I have never been to TZ. I am Zambian full blown. I think we need to teach these Tanzanians a footballing lesson on Saturday at least 4-0.
vipack on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 4:46 PM
the TZ guys are really excited about their team that beat IC by a lone goal and they are sure that zambia would fall. Any way, if wishes were horses even bagars would ride on them.
TZ guys, underate mighty zambia at your own down fall. Don’t say you were not warned.
james on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 5:22 PM
tanzania 2 zambia 1…………nightmares from cecafa will come back to haunt u! i have to say ur wingers r good……but we will clobber them!
have guys noticed how many goals that have been rejected as a result of wrong offside decisions? lwipo scored a beautiful header that was ruled offside in the Zam IC game…swed (tz) scored from free kick in th Tz IC …offside, to b honest i dont trust african refs when it cmes to making offside decisions its like if ur too quick for defenders ur most likely to b called offside!! u gots to b a really good striker to score in africa given this poor referee performance.
Luapula Fish on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 5:27 PM
This is the Game we can enjoy watching in the boarder town of Nakonde- Tunduma.
Seen from afar on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 5:28 PM
It’s not all doom and gloom, pleased to hear the French commentator of both games (myafricanfootball.com) speaking highly of Zambia and reading the Zamfoot profiles/nicknames of the players in detail!
It’s true we were out of sorts and out of sync yesterday, but Senegal did not dominate us or the mid the whole match. In the first half we were so out of sync that it allowed the Senegalese to press forward. Unpressured we would loose the ball and make complacent pases and that was also the story in the final third of the pitch, which was the reason we had so few chances facing the excellent Sene backline! We controlled the second half limiting the Senegal to a few tricky high long balls which gave them some chances. Technically both sides could have done much better, we needed a slightly tighter mid, Saku, Henry, Lwipa to come and get the ball , Njobvu or Lwipa to hold the ball just a bit longer and either play in others or draw the imminent foul.
Whisper on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 6:36 PM
Seen… I’ve noticed that a lot of our passing isn’t as crisp as it should be. We tend to underhit a lot of our passes and not move the ball quickly. Overall our play is too slow. Personally I think this is where a lot of our players come undone when they go for trials. The football in Europe is played at a much higher pace and the ball is moved very quickly.
All our goals against CIV were as a result of players running with the ball and playing through ball and other players running onto it before crossing or shooting. I think this is where we have an advantage and something we need to exploit.
Justice Kafusha on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 6:54 PM
Zimbabwe 1 DR Congo 1, yaka kana mu group B na mo
Seen from afar on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 7:45 PM
Whisper, i think this tournament is evidence that we have some of (not all) the best potential players, creative players in Africa and that we should not be as overlooked as we have been.
To your point, i think sometimes we played too quickly when it would have been better to keep possession… I don’t want to say more than that… but there is room for big improvement and that is a good thing because the guys do have the scope to achieve it.
Players need more support back home to make them confident when going abroad to cope and become accustomed to a very different environment, culture as not everyone will be willing to provide this support or take the chance in the first place. If clubs have a good attitude towards improving their club, then i believe Zambian players are perfect.
Helper on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 8:27 PM
Hey Ba’ zambia! I don’t have many to say but to warn you. For us not to be in AFCON for along time does’nt mean that we were not playing football at all. Bytheway our local league is the best in southern Sahara if you didn’t know about it. We even have player from Zambia who comes to play Pro-football in Tanzania.(Elija Litana, malitoli, Chikwala R.I.P) Our teams (Young Africans and Simba) have been dominated in EA & All african in general. So if you look in those facts you will come to realise that we know how to do these things but we were worrying about athoer things first like politics, economy, African freedom etc. Since now we have done with it, now we will dominate Africa in Soccer not only Africa but the whole World.We are going to start with you on Saturday. You will never beleave it but that’s how it is! GO Taifa Stars! We are waiting for the CUP in Dar.
Nsomba on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 9:08 PM
Mr helper is that all Tanzanian football has contributed to African soccer?Mr Helper let me explain something to you Zambia was at one time among the top 15 football nations in the world (1996) ranked above England at one time something you Swahili’s cannot even dream about, Zambia has qualified to nine out of the last ten Africa nations cup tournaments and these are things us Zambians take for granted we as Zambians feel that as a standard Zambia is expected to qualify to 90% of the tournaments on the African football calendar while you taifas need 30yrs to qualify for mediocre tournament such as Chan so Mr helper I have not mentioned all that Zambia has achieved in football because if I try and just mention half of our footballing achievement the will fill this whole page up .So I will live it at that mr helper
Jaggari on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 10:00 PM
Uncle Bob said: “sorry guys, not my fault that i am a donisaur like Ba Jaggari and Ba Justice, it is just a fact!!!)”
Ba Uncles, you are wrong! We are not dinosaurs, lol! Check your passport…what does your “soccer age” say? I thought we were both 27 like Nkwanku Kanu!!
Lol!
Jaggari on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 10:17 PM
Uncles,
Remember James Jengela [sometimes spelt Njengela] of Nkana. Sammy Selemaniand Mustafa Kalizamani [Ndola Utd] who was also rumored to be from Dar side?
Tanzania’s greatest victory over Zambia was back in 1979, the qualifiers for the 1980 Nations Cup. They beat us 2-1 in Dar and came to Dag where Zambia had reportedly never lost a game, although that wasn’t entirely accurate [will explain later]. The late Brian Tiler was Zambia coach. We had Alex, Ucar, Bizwell Phiri, Peter Kaumba, Kaiser Kalambo and others. But I was miffed because Tiler had dropped my favorite, Ackim Musenge for Kampela Katumbo. At any rate, the “Mwachiusas,” particularly their goalie Juma Ponda..something, frustrated Zambia entirely and the game ended goalless. I was broken-hearted.
Yes, Taifa Stars have been a gadfly to Zambia before. They could cause problems for us. It’s local derby and anything can happen. But as they say back home”we shall sort them out!”
Lol!
Zambia never lost a COMPETITIVE game at Dag but were beaten 2-1 by Brazilian club Operario [sp] in 1975.
Jaggari on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 10:18 PM
Of course, the greatest Zambian of Tanzanian heritage to contribute to our game was the late, great Ben Pabili [Bamfuchile].
Helper on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 10:55 PM
@Jaggari! Thanks for taking me way back. The name of the keeper bytheway is Juma Pondamali. He was the funiest keeper ever to watch. Little did you know, we are going to fustrate you once more!!
Helper on Thu, 26th Feb 2009 11:03 PM
Nsomba! You can have all the statistics or achievement that you honestly you deserve to have but unfortunately we are not scared! We only know “anything that you put effort onto it, you will become successful” that’s why you guys became successful during all that times because we never put effort into soccer. Since now we have put our effoert, money into it you will deffenately hear us. WE ARE COMING AFTER YOU!!
Whisper on Fri, 27th Feb 2009 1:39 AM
Guys, I’ve just finished watching the game against Senegal. I think you are all going to think that I am mad, but I think we played a decent game. We weren’t over-run as much as I thought, again I reading the comments on this site led me to believe that we were run ragged and were hanging on.
Firstly, I think that the defence did very well in stopping amasene getting too many shots on goal. The defence has been very tight this tournament and are to be complicated. Again Nyambe was really good, Perry was equally good on the other flank and the two chaps in the middle (George and Elijah/Francis) did well too.
There was a bit of a problem in the middle of the park, but not necessarily because of the midfielders. I believe that the defenders made the midfield inneffective because they were missing them out and simply pumping long balls up field. Especially Francis, I think that is why things improved slightly when he was replaced by Elijah. Unfortunately, our players don’t have the long passing ability to hit their targets and the targets that they are trying to hit are being out muscled.
The strikers simply did not have any service. I think that Lwipa did well in the game. He dropped back in the midfield and showed some good pieces of skill when running at defenders. Given had a hard time, but that was simply because he had no supply.
One thing that really frustrated me is was that Henry ran at his marker twice throughout the whole game and both occasions he was brought down and a yellow card was shown to the Senegalese player. Why did it take him until the 85th minute to try another run following the yellow card in the first half? Surely, the coaching bench should have told him to keep going at the defender, because he would have been scared to tackle.
Again, we need to speed up our passing and ensure that we are playing to feet before getting the wingers to run at their full backs.
Anyway, as I started by saying, it wasn’t as bad as was made out and I think we have a strong chance on Saturday.
Matafwali on Fri, 27th Feb 2009 3:13 AM
Whisper, I agree with your analysis. I took the queue from you and watched the game again. I said before that I for one did not think we had played that badly. However you must admit there was something missing with our team aside from our midfield being ineffective. A couple of times our players were open and when the ball was passed to them (passes appeared harmless) the ball went right by them or they couldn’t control the ball. It was more lackadaisical on our players’ part to me than the pressure applied by Senegal. In as much as the Senegalese were more physical they also were more aggressive in getting to the loose balls, hence their dominance in possession. All in all, these are all correctable problems. It is up to the technical bench to take the correct measures.
Jaggari on Fri, 27th Feb 2009 6:07 AM
Helper, good luck my brother!
Uncle Bobs on Fri, 27th Feb 2009 8:44 AM
Ba Jaggari
I do remember JJ (James Jengela) and i rate him among some of the best ball trappers together with others like Fred Kashimoto, Benja (Kaluz elder brother) etc.Juma Pondamali really saved the Taifas on that afternoon, and after that all young keepers during our time started calling themselves “Pondamali”. I recently met the man and congratulated him for the performance-he was very happy. He now coaches a team here.
@Helper
Helper,
I can clearly see that you haven’t been to Tanzania lately and are giving wrong data to the masses. The last 6 months i have been here CECAFA equivalent at Club level was hosted by Tanzania and both Simba and Yanga were booted out. Unless you meant Tanzania and not SubShahara/EA then again you are off-side as i don’t what Simba and Yanga dominated in. The last continental meeting between a Zambian (ZANACO) and Simba(TZ coached by a Zambian Patrick Phiri who they have recalled)was in favour of ZANACO. You need to have ears to the ground lest you continue being filled with WRONG DATA.
On a positive, i should admit that the TFF seem to be more focussed than our FAZ as they’ve even introduced U-20 sides for Premier Division sides that in the long run will have the right benefits. The only advantage Zambia has is that soccer is in the blood as even in the midst of confusion, we surprise many!!!
Mphatso on Fri, 27th Feb 2009 9:06 AM
I think the Taifa stars fans on this blog are in for a rude shock, come Saturday….
BA MUZO on Fri, 27th Feb 2009 10:14 AM
You must be dreaming. When did Tanzania ever beat Zambia in a competitive match. We have taught you lessons not only in Dar but in Mwanza as well. Dream on. If Zambia lose the Coach -Renard will be fired because we cant be eliminated by minions and expect to stand against the Mighty of the Pharoahs. Its as simple as that Bwana Tanzanians. Mwe HAKUNA matata!!!!!!
Shidada Namibia on Fri, 27th Feb 2009 10:26 AM
My prediction Zambia 2 Tanzania 0
Vincent Numbwa on Fri, 27th Feb 2009 10:58 AM
some one to tell me the final score btwn Ghana and Libya, I was too tired to finish da game I retired to bed when it was 1 to nill in favour of Libya.
Sibs. on Fri, 27th Feb 2009 11:04 AM
Vincent it was 1-1.Results are there on cafonline.com.Group B be is very tight any of the 4 teams can still make the semis.
Sibs. on Fri, 27th Feb 2009 11:07 AM
A bit of an article on Given “Freedom” Singulume also.
Vincent Numbwa on Fri, 27th Feb 2009 11:09 AM
Thanks ba Sibs.
kapunda on Fri, 27th Feb 2009 11:39 AM
let our lads be psychologically and physically prepared in tomorow’s game with Tanzania. This is the only chance to get a pestigios cup.
Shidada Namibia on Fri, 27th Feb 2009 11:43 AM
I agree with the coach
‘Players feared Senegal’
From CHAPADONGO LUNGU in Abidjan
COACH Herve Renard says Zambia played badly against Senegal because they did not have the mental strength to face the West Africans.
He observed that Zambia feared Senegal and gave them too much respect, and could have lost the match. The match ended 0-0.
“I am only 10 months in Zambia but I think there is a complex against West African teams. We were afraid to play. But I am not disappointed because we didn’t get any chance to score apart from two set-pieces,” Renard said.
He said it was impossible to win a game when players fear opponents.
He observed that Zambia played better in the second half but not good enough to win the game as Senegal were on top of things.
Renard said players told him that they failed to find strikers during the game.
“But I told them that if you want to find a striker, put the ball for him and not out of play,” he said.
While acknowledging that the play was awful, Renard refused to blame players.
He said the fact that they are leading Group A means they are the best team so far.
“The most important thing for now is to lead. So, I can’t blame the players because they are leading,” Renard said.
Zambia and Senegal have four points apiece but Renard’s boys have a two-goal advantage having beaten Ivory Coast 3-0 in the first game.
Ivory Coast are out of the competition following their 0-1 loss to Tanzania on Wednesday.
Renard noted that most players that included captain Kebby Hachipuka and Francis Kasonde had a bad game and hoped they would rise to the occasion against Tanzania tomorrow.
“They were afraid of the big guys from Senegal. When I say big guys, I don’t mean the size, I mean the mind,” Renard said.
He said Zambia must change the defeatist attitude against teams from West Africa.
Renard is hopeful Zambia would get past Tanzania to seal qualification to the semi-finals.
He, however, said the match would be tough because Tanzania were a good team capable of upsetting Zambia.
The Frenchman noted that Tanzania were good on the ball although they left too much spaces between players, which would make Zambia play well.
“When you’re leading the group with one match left, what is normal is to qualify,” Renard said.
He also said the presence of Elijah Tana in the team would add impetus to their resolve to shove off the Taifa Stars
Whisper on Fri, 27th Feb 2009 12:15 PM
Coach, if you want the players to defeat this complex it must start with you. How do YOU say that Ghana are the best and and after the game say that we should have lost against Senegal?? I repeat my comments from above, if you look at the shot count against Senegal there wasn’t a massive difference between the two teams, even the corner count was around the same for both too. I agree that we didn’t control the ball as well as the Senegalese, but that was due to the fact that we didn’t utilise Kebby and Willie well enough, the gap between defence and midfield was too big and our defenders were pumping too many high/long balls.
Matafwali, you are right! I was quite frustrated than rather make a 5 metre pass, quickly our guys were hanging onto the ball and trying to make a 35 metre pass. I couldn’t understand it. At least Herve has recognised this because when the players said we found it tough to find the strikers, told them that they need to keep the ball in play first. What he needs to do is make sure that they keep the ball on the ground and use pass and move to create openings, we don’t want ‘route one’ football.
Emmanuel on Fri, 27th Feb 2009 12:26 PM
Chipolopolo 1 u are very right.fact number 1 zambia and senegal are the only teams yet to allow a goal.2 zambia has scored more goals so far. Singuluma is stil leading goal score is fact number 3.
Topstriker-Tz on Fri, 27th Feb 2009 12:57 PM
Thanks guys for inviting me back. Like you have said zambia and Tanzania are neighbours and friends.
I will keep posting whether we beat you (Surely this will happen) or you fluked and beats. It is football and what make football a nice game is having different opnions and choice. We dont have names in our Taifa stars, they play more like a team now. The only suprising win for Zambia to me is game against SA. That was come on time, but not this time against. Let try to beat bookmakers. Tanzania 2-1 Zambia. But you will go though, IC will get consolation win, but then i think you will play against group A leader, I think Zimbabwe (They are playing with libya last game). I am not sure which team i will prefer Ghana or Congo. Sorry… i am counting my chickens already!!!
Fire on Fri, 27th Feb 2009 1:48 PM
Tanzania you used to know is different today. We fear almost no team in Africa at this competition, but we respect you guys because you have been higher achievers compared to us. But Saturday will be different. Then you will see how strong our team is. If it is diffencing, then that is probably the heart of our team. We started badly on the first match, and it seems Senegal had studied us before, but eventually, we started taking command of the match and by 20 min to time you could see Senegal reduced to their half. This is not same to you as as time kicked on, Senegal team was mounting pressures on you.
You won against IC because they are a young team, but also underestimated you, but came with every weapon to win against us and of course even the referee was in their favour. Come Saturday, Taifa Stars 2 Zambia 0
Uncle Bobs on Fri, 27th Feb 2009 1:55 PM
Wewe Topstriker,
Ninakuchapa and hongera sana for coming back-at least you are not a coward. You are welcome brother in the name of football. Yes indeed, sometimes miracles do happen and you may (VERY UNLIKELY) just fluke against Zambia.
billy on Fri, 27th Feb 2009 3:22 PM
Let,s make it clear, we don’t doubt certainly TZ will out play Zanzibar by far goals
Yusuph (Tanzania) on Sat, 28th Feb 2009 10:13 AM
Hey Zambian… Dont pretend that you dont see what is done by Taifa Stars at CHAN… You stay watching this evening the punishment you gonna get. Obviously Tanzania must beat Zambia more than a goal.
Yusuph – Tanzania
Justice Kafusha on Sat, 28th Feb 2009 1:16 PM
HR’s Ghana have a problem 2 points from 2 games, failed to beat Libya.
Justice Kafusha on Sat, 28th Feb 2009 1:26 PM
Yusuph football is not played with the mouth, casue had it been the case, Tanganyika would have been African champions thru. out. It is today and the battle will be on the field of play. While Tanganyika have already won thru. talking Zedians will wait for the result after 90 minutes. And I will tell one thing for us Zedians this is not the most important game in our system, we are to take part i AFCON/SA2010, for us this like chibuku cup, used to identify players we can add for the Cairo and Chilies games while for u it is a “a katwishi” maybe I won’t be there next time. I hope u win as a way of saying thank to the Chinese for having put up a so nice Stadium in a wrong place (Tanganyika)
By the way can u send me some dry buka buka
CHEERS ZED
Justice Kafusha on Sat, 28th Feb 2009 1:31 PM
Iwe Bobs it seems we have something in common “Brave Rangers”. Let us keep in touch thru. ma e-mails, min is [email protected]
PS: Anyone Zed soccer FAN wishing to get in touch with me directly napapene
Cheers lads
As for Zed whether we loose today; will support the team