Comments on: Mayuka transfer saga…Porto or Macabi Tev aviv?

By: Chips, RSA

Chips, RSA — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:30:09 +0000

Which ever team Mayuka was to sign for, he was to start playing for the reserve, as he has already done at Maccabi and scored a goal. Understand he will play in the reserve for the whole season before being promoyed to the senior team. This could have been the situation at Port too. Football is not bad in Isreal. In any case the boy is just 17 ?

By: Ninja

Ninja — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:53:49 +0000

Maccabi is just okay for Mayuka, Going to porto would have been a bad idea because he would be sitting on the bench/stands for 2 yrs. Knowing Zambian players, he would be finished by then.

Go on and do your best in Israel, you are a good lad

By: Spaks

Spaks — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:14:17 +0000

JO3 agreed it is of course better to play for porto than haifa, my concern is the fact that those negotiating for the boy do not have the boys interests in mind nor do they have the interests of the country but their own interests, that there is the problem, that’s why we have players in Nigeria now, honestly whose interest has been taken into account? definitely not zambia or the player, what will he learn from there? not even the money is worth talking about

By: Wayaya

Wayaya — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:53:56 +0000

Comrads lets be serious.We all know that players differ as well as coaches.Look what is happening at arsenal? You cannot be experienced just becoz u are always in the team.I believe wenger is admired the way he identifys talent and keep it to tick.Porto will also think the same and look at walcot of arsenal.Porto is university of football where you can met,play and learn with best brains in teaching staff,exposure and status of team.This is where mayuka and zambians shud think of playing.Bane ku porto eko chalila na ndubwi! Mwalaba shani! Mbesuma is not mayuka.

By: Seen from afar

Seen from afar — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:51:57 +0000

Whisper & Spaks, if you are a good agent, it’s like having a nice saving account.

Sounds like it’s time for FAZ to lay down some ground rules. Players should be under contract and these should be simple and transparent for all to understand. Every team should use same types of contract. Every team should use the same procedure for selling players. I am all for clubs getting their returns.

Hope this particular case gets sorted out.

By: JO3

JO3 — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:19:34 +0000

Most of u think Mayuka should go to Isreal, that’s wise thinking considering Mayuka’s inexperience overseas But imagine how good it would be for the guy if he went to Porto and was in the first Team, i don’t know about u? but i think his good enough to play for Porto’s first team. He would hav the chance to play in the Champions league, meet great players and FC Porto sounds better than Maccabi Tev Aviv. Just imagine how profitable it would be for Zambia…..then again u guys probably know more about zambian football than i do.

By: Dinamo

Dinamo — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:08:48 +0000

SPAKS interesting comments you have made.I still insist on my reference to Afrisports as an experienced club in player transfers coz so far the majority of Zambian players in Europe are from Afri’s Mapili grounds.They are the only club at moment which has sent the likes of Jacob Mulenga,Rainford Kalaba,Stophira Sunzu & the two players at RoPs in Finland direct to Europe.I think from these deals Afrisports have gained some experience on what exactly goes on player tranfers.I agree that some of these deals were not too good but the fact is that Gabriel Kunda & Afrisports have learnt a lot & can advise teams like Warriors who have never sold a player direct to Europe since their inception.

By: Mwape

Mwape — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:07:10 +0000

Very interesting comments indeed, prooving that we are well vested in football Management issues, the point made on this forum by far only prove that as a nation we have the knowledge but greed always takes its tall, if we took we were not greedy we were going to look at the players plight first before the clubs or the agents thats why the west africans are always ahead of us because they take the players to europe for free and get the money later, comeon zambians we can do much better.

By the way for Francis Kombe to play for golden arrows means that some clearance was gotten somewere unless you are saying FAZ is devided, remember he was training with City then Lusaka Dynamos then Power cried foul that he is there player funny huh.

He is already there and for his careers sake let that be.

By: amos mumba

amos mumba — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:36:22 +0000

The Porto issue should be forgoten and let the young man play in Israel where he stands a better chance of regular match play.We dont want another Felix Katongo issue again.Porto never offered $10,000 AS PEOPLE SEEM TO BE SAYING ,it is the politics of agents concealing the real deal and offering peanuts to clubs and players.Let him play in Israel is my verdict.

By: Whisper

Whisper — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:19:32 +0000

Spaks, it seems that you know quite a bit about this, I think we know many of the same people.

However, on point one. The rules have been amended and agents are asked to either:

i) Secure and maintain professional liability insurance. This would mean a monthly payment to a suitable insurance company. The premiums can vary, but in most instances are about £500 p/m. This is do-able for a lot of Zambians. It’s just that a lot of the ‘agents’ don’t know that this option is now available.

ii) Provide FIFA with a bank guarantee of 100,000 Swiss Francs. This will be held by FIFA to cover the cost of any damages that might come about due to the agnet not acting responsibly. This is the traditional method and the one that you refer to above.

Oh yes, apart from parents and agents the third group of people allowed to negoitate contracts on behalf of players are lawyers.

Also, I know who you are referring to in point two. The person would argue that he was also taken for a ride by the player (Moses) and a European based agent. The guy isn’t a FIFA registered agent, so he had to rely on this European to do all the negotiations at Koln. Once the negotiations were concluded he wasn’t renumerated to the level he had agreed, allegedly

Guys, the truth of the matter is that domestically our football is in a shambles. We are speculating on whether or not these players are actually under contract at their clubs. Zambian footballers live a hand to mouth existance and there are a lot of things that go on that are contrary to FIFA laws.

My recommendation to FAZ is that they should engage a law firm to ‘audit’ every premier league team to find out what the current situation is.